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I already mentioned Ohearn, Max Bennett, Tom Fowler, Arthur Barrow, and Scott Thunes to name just a few!
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02-03-2018 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
If you google Bennett you can see many photos of him with an electric bass.
Anyhow, Max is a fine musician that was good at straight ahead as well as fusion jazz.
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You know, I could talk and write about FZ 24 hours a day, so forgive me for chiming in here more than I probably should.
Listening to some of his late-middle stuff--Sheik Yerbouti, You Are What You Is, Them or Us--I remain impressed with his arrangements and the virtuosity of his performers, as well as the quirkiness of his humor, even if they don't have the depth of the fusion stuff.
Even Ya Hozna is pretty interesting when played at high volume--rather hallucinogenic, once might say.
The potty stuff...well, let's just say FZ is in the long tradition of Chaucer, Rabelais, Mozart, Bosch, Dali, Crumb and so many others who use scatology and sex as a window into art and philosophy.
He has so many tropes, like Bosch's funnel hats and demons and Dali's clocks and crutches...
Poodles
Ponchos
Sausage
Leather
Bondage
Mud Shark
Zircon-encrusted tweezers
STD's
And of course the various scatological references that pop up his entire career. (In France, for instance...)
I read that on later records he would literally just superimpose a previously recorded solo (mainly guitar) onto a new song--xenochrony. Doubt that he was too lazy to play a new one, but like an electronics hoarder who finally finds a use for that volume knob he had been saving since the 70's...
Anyway, I guess my point is that there are an infinite number of facets to Frank's art. The more one looks at it, the more strange and astounding it really is.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
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I could talk about Mr. Zappa all day also. One of my favorite subjects inside my very favorite subject music.
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The problem is most people don't wanna talk about music all day long. That's why I like this thread so much. I remember once in middle school a friend of mine said man all you ever wanna talk about is music. So since my dad was a former college basketball player I took it upon myself to talk about that and football more often haha.
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Does anybody here listen to Captain Beefheart?
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
But it shows how jazz was changing... And priorities of musicians change.
Stuff like GS was not in the old rep. In the case of Christian's time, Tea for Two was considered a bit of a tricky one cos if it's strange form and unexpected modulations from C to Ab, probably. Not super easy, but not Coltrane changes either.
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
GS = Giant Steps.
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
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Of course in Zappa's corner, we have C.A.S.H.
Church of American Secular Humanism - Zappa Wiki Jawaka
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Listening to the complete Roxy recordings...
What an awesome band...what Zappa and his players were able to do live...and the audience interaction...
George Duke, the funkiest clavinet player ever...
Outstanding. Making me nostalgic for seeing them live.
On the other hand, there's Uncle Meat--some cool if very eccentric compositions. Varese meets Ellington by way of Andy Kaufman.
Zappa and those guys were just so far from what else was going on around them. A truly singular talent.
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
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Originally Posted by FZ2017
cheers
ps- zoot horn bill harkleroad..later...turns out he's a jazz lover
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Originally Posted by neatomic
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^ of course!!
some prime zoot- (stage left -red jacket-red 330)
"the moon was a drip on a dark hood"
cheers
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Okay so how about this Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart? Who's music would you choose. I love them both but believe it or not I know some people who love Don but hate Zappa Haha! That's always baffled me because lots of people discover Beefheart thru Zappa!
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Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
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