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I can’t help enjoying the beauty of simple dissonances. I don’t know how the cowboy chord club does it. Imagine having never tasted beyond vanilla?
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11-03-2022 10:15 AM
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I suppose it depends on how the music is played. Much of the atonal music I have heard just doesn't appeal to me because it seems to go nowhere and feels as if the player and/or composer are trying too hard to create "art". On the other hand, you seem to capture the sense of exploring whatever it is you are choosing to play and therefore are always going somewhere with it. That, I can enjoy listening to.
Tony
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Tonality does allow one to cheat at music rather, by imposing a convenient external structure.
it’s much harder to do something coherent without this - Schoenberg often resorted to texts in his free tonal era to write something longer, before settling on the 12 tone approach.
Anyway I liked this improvisation. Sounded pretty and calming! I’m not sure if I’d call it atonal.
I also felt it had a sense of form although I couldn’t put my finger on it.
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To me this is a very advanced concept, beyond my scope at this time. Most of us are trying to really play well, in a tonal sense, and that takes a lot of work.
I have the utmost respect for the free jazz musicians in Chicago I saw over the years, especially those in the AACM. It was such an experiential blast, a visceral shot of adrenaline, to hear all that energy unleashed.
It translates much better in the live experience
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Originally Posted by NSJ
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by tbeltrans
i agree with you. I really don’t like noise-music or things that grate, bang and clang. We used to joke that some of the horns sounded like a cat in a blender playing in counterpoint with a dog hit by a car. Never mind the drummers.
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How condescending. Ignore it, Mark. The guy’s a conceited fool.
My tolerance for free playing has wavered over the decades, sometimes loving it, sometimes not so much, but I always give it a listen when I can. These days I prefer it emanating from a single player, as here, and then it comes very direct. I enjoyed it very much, though a whole album of it might be a stretch. Sometimes I prefer the hidden structures of a serial approach, as somehow I find it less disturbing when full on. But sometimes - and that might depend upon the player - a completely atonal and arhythmical approach is just what the doctor ordered.
Anyway, keep doing what you do, Mark!
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Well done! I especially like how you use two voices. I'll be experimenting with this in my studio today. :-)
I'm curious -- is this a daily exercise or just something you break out on occasion? If the former, any suggestions for development?
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Originally Posted by Mark Kleinhaut
I also like a lot of three chord songs.
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Originally Posted by dfclark
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WTF is that crap in post #8? I second Mr. MacKillop most whole heartedly!
I've always loved unsettled and non-'functional' music myself. My brother does cowboy guitar. I don't understand him anymore than he understands me!
Your playing is great! And I think your more organized stuff is great too.
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First of all sorry for my English.
Everyone who play guitar ALONE in front of an audience (or a videocamera in this case), deserve a lot of RESPECT.
Atonal music is not my preferred kind of Musical Expression……but I have a GREAT RESPECT and DEEP ADMIRATION for the musicians who play this very demanding style.
One of the Master of Atonal/Free Jazz Guitar was Joe Diorio. His recordings with the pianist Wally Cirillo are amazing expressions of PURE MUSICAL ART.
Just 2 obeservations:
1) Your sound is really wonderful.
2) I’m sure that if you do a SMILE while you play your Music, nobody will hurt and the overall result will be better.
Love from Italy.
ettoreLast edited by equenda; 11-08-2022 at 07:12 AM.
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Originally Posted by equenda
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Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
Last edited by Mark Kleinhaut; 11-08-2022 at 11:37 AM.
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Perhaps wearing an Elmo costume would help?
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I listened only, no video, and heard engaging sounds in a secret language. Spectacular tone. Nothing else matters. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Peter C
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I listened again watching some of the video and it sounded exactly the same.
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Originally Posted by Mark Kleinhaut
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Originally Posted by tbeltrans
The best explanation I've read is in the first chapter of Tonality in Modern Music by Rudolf Reti (1958).
It's an excellent book.
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Originally Posted by ChazFromCali
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