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I can't wait for the comments on this lol
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06-22-2022 10:08 AM
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I'm still waiting to hear what Bach can teach us about improvisation. As far as I can see his stuff is pretty well diatonic, as befits the classical music of that time. The Am stuff doesn't modulate to anything radical at all and uses just the chords one might expect in an Am composition.
At about 35.20 it goes E7 - F#o - E7 - Am. You say that's an F#o but there's no Eb in it. It's much more akin to Am/F# and the F# may just be part of the bass line E-F#-G#-A while the chords go E7-Am-E7-Am.
But I definitely think you could start a new line as a radio presenter. You have the voice.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
the notes in the arpeggio are
F# A C A D# E
It’s not quite either a (mispelled) F#o7 or a F#m7b5 but both. I chose to hear the E as a pedal from the previous chord and the rest of the chord as a dim7. You may differ and in a sense it probably doesn’t matter what the chord is called, that’s an anachronism anyway as Bach didn’t name chords that way. Its the way that intervals in it are prepared and resolved
btw naming chords without the bass you’re kind of missing the point tbh - the bass is really really important here. The chords/counterpoint can be changed around while the bass remains more or less fixed, as opposed to the chords being fixed and the bass changing as it is in jazz/pop harmony
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
I know it's built from the bass but I couldn't see an Eb/D#, just Am, and that ascending bass line. I see/hear that repeating E at the top just as an attractive way of doing the melody. Quite groovy, really!
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I forgot. I think it's okay to have an F#o there. The D# resolves nicely to the E of E7. Why not?
(It's not an F#m7b5)
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Originally Posted by ragman1
yeah Bach likes to do that sort of thing just keeps a pedal tone even when it creates some very pungent dissonances. Usually he does it in the bass, but here it’s in the melody…
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Originally Posted by ragman1
The high E pedal just lasts two chords.
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the church reverb in your voice is perfect for this video cause Bach made all his music for the love of god !
(interesting video, good job)
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Link for the scores and notation related to the vid
Bach_Double_Analysis.pdf - Google Drive
Links should be working now
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Okay. It's murder trying to get this stuff right. Here's the bit we were talking about. Let's hope I've got this right!
Firstly, I misread it. The D in the F#o arp is a D# because it's already sharp in that bar. I missed that and thought it was natural, hence Am. Apologies.
So nothing's changed, it's F#o and it resolves to the natural D of E7 in the next bar.
As you were. Sorry, my fault.
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I’m quite surprised musescore didn’t write a precautionary natural sign in the next bar.
Ah well, it’s all in the tabz lol
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