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Originally Posted by ragman1
Besides, jam is a creative playing and requires some versatility from the performers.
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10-09-2021 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kris
That's called 'argument from popularity and/or authority' and it's fallacious.
(I hope you're busy working out some of Alessio's lines, they're rather good!)
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See, I think it has a great melody.
Definitely agree on the hypnotic aspect. Its a good thing to me...but then again, I regularly listen to entire Grateful Dead shows.
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Originally Posted by ragman1
does Alessio take part in a virtual jam?
Anyway I like very much Chris Potter much more interested for me although he plays the saxophone.
His solo has something that Alessio does not.
I suggest you listen to him carefully.Last edited by kris; 10-10-2021 at 01:52 AM.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
This tune somehow exposes the improviser's workshop.
There is tremendous knowledge in these four chords.
I appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Originally Posted by kris
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Scuffling my way through it:
i need to cop some Chris Potter ideas, i think.
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Alreet, then, here's mine. I don't think I've ever played this before (though I've listened to the HH version countless times). Quite a lesson in clave and counting.
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Originally Posted by dogletnoir
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Originally Posted by John A.
Nice feel with distorted guitar.
It reminds me a bit of Jeff Beck playing his Stratocaster.
However, it is jazz solo with interesting melodic lines.
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Originally Posted by John A.
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Wzpgsr: Really nice. Great development, feel, tone. Regarding the love taps in my version, what can I say? Strat's been a naughty girl. Sometimes you gotta give the whammy a little wham. I do think this sort of tune benefits from a some sustain and the expressive possibilities of distortion. That, and a solid body recorded direct is quiet at night ...
Jeff: Definite got some lovechild of Grant and Jerry action there. Nice to hear you stretch out a bit.
Kris: I like both versions, though the way your backing tracks straighten out the rhythm compared to the original turns it into a somewhat different tune. I feel like part of the nature of the tune is having to feel the clave and syncopation, and build lines that weave in and out of the rhythmic space. Giving it a different pulse makes its something different. That aside, as always, you play some really interesting stuff and it's all beautifully executed. On mine, I guess any time I pick up the strat things get a little Beck-ish. I love his expressiveness and try to get a little of that vibe.
LittleBlackDog: The second one is cool. Definitely headed in the right direction
Ragman: So why play this tune? I don't know, why play any tune? Because it's there. Because someone called it, and playing tunes someone else calls is part of the jazz experience. Anyway, yeah, it's a big challenge to make it interesting with the method and aesthetic you use on these threads, so I appreciate your frustration and puzzlement. Put yourself in front of a really strong rhythm section, unchain yourself from having to use your lines to highlight form/structure, and give yourself a chance to let loose with dynamics and texture, and it's a different experience from the one you're having.Last edited by John A.; 10-10-2021 at 10:21 PM.
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John -
See, I'm just a quiet sort of person, quite happy to sit at home noodling over my chords. That's the way it is :-)
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At real jam sessions it is like ... when I don't know the tune and e.g.I don't have any notes, I just don't play.
Here it is / internet / that everyone has access to everything.
Therefore, if I record my version and I don't like it, I don't publish it.
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An excuse for some more odd meter fun!
Cheers.
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Very interesting modern sound.
The new generation language of expression.
Great stuff!!!
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Originally Posted by ragman1
But are you doing it just for yourself?
If so, why this jam?
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Originally Posted by kris
What do you say?
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Originally Posted by ragman1
You play solo for which you get applauded or not.
There is no philosophy here.
At least that's how I understand it.
"Individual interpretation" is a serious statement for me and it makes me laugh a bit.
This is not a Chopin competition that is currently taking place in Warsaw...
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Jazzism recorded an excellent version and let's talk about it and applaud him.
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Originally Posted by kris
JGBE Virtual Jam Song List and "Rules"
Which of them am I breaking?
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Originally Posted by ragman1
I wrote about a real jam session.
JGBE only has a name taken from a real jam session.
In fact, it has nothing to do with real jam.
The principle is similar ... i.e. you play a good solo and receive "spiritual support" from others.
Hope you understed.
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Originally Posted by kris
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Kris (and Jeff too, probably) -
I'll be honest about this tune, I don't get it, unfortunately. I've tried it with a very good backing track and the rhythm over two bars is horrendous, very complicated, very easy to lose one's way. But, even so, nothing I was doing sounded any good at all. My 'style' didn't go with the backing which is why I made my own in the end. Even if I had a proper electric/jazz guitar it still wouldn't work.
So, as you can see, I just drift along dreamily to a vaguely bossa/samba rhythm and it works on its own level. But I do like the head, the notes are good, it's evocative.
So that explains that. Of course, I could just sit it out... but I ain't going to do that, not my style either, no way :-)
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