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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
I know I've done one already but it ought to be slow really and everyone's doing it that way. But any excuse for a bourbon. It's pretty straightforward except for one rather audacious note at the end... just happened by itself.
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03-19-2021 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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03-19-2021, 09:09 AM #28Dutchbopper GuestOriginally Posted by kris
DB
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John, nice stuff! A mix of bop and blues...and those bends!
DB, Burning! Makes me want to take another stab at it this week and get some more energy into my playing of it.
Kris-- it really works as a bossa-- I was skeptical. Great playing as always.
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Dutchbopper -- really fun take on the tune, and that ES 350 sounds fantastic. And yeah, I'm really liking the way this 77 sounds.
Kris: Did you post a bossa version (per Jeff's comment)? I'm not seeing anything. If you did, can someone post the url?
Rags: Leave the gun, take the cannoli.
John
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Originally Posted by John A.
Originally Posted by ragman1
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That's weird, definitely worked for me early this morning...but I always look forward to hearing another.
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Will post today, took a couple of takes last night.
Hard to find versions that conjure up that mojo that Grant Green had on the original with Joe Henderson and Duke Pearson.
I love anything with Peter Bernstein, but that Blue Note 7 album left me thinking something was missing--I bought the album and thought, "this doesn't quite punch me in the gut as overtly and subtly as usual with the guys in their own right." Love Bill Charlap. Anything with Peter Washington is going to be a treat. And Steve Wilson? Ravi freaking Coltrane? Lewis Nash?!? I thought my ears would be in for a treat, something that would be hard to top. Something felt really tame on the album which goes against what all these musicians bring to the table on their own. Sometimes these types of albums work, sometimes not as much. I'll blame Blue Note's new management because I feel crappy saying anything bad about the musicians--they are top notch players! They kill it on their own!
This sounds better to my ears, maybe because it's live:
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Since you're interested, check out Mountain Flight by Toninho Horta.
Part of a chart here:
Toninho Horta - Mountain Flight
What makes this tune interesting is that the harmony flows very nicely. You hear ii Vs and it's all very pretty.
Then, when you try to play it, it turns out there are a lot of unexpected key changes. Most players find it very challenging.
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Another take on the way:
One thing I noticed... this tune is challenging if you want to get busy with it... nah nah nah nah, nah nah naaah...
Or wait, was that... get jiggy with it?
Double timing and such felt very weird on this tune, and not because of lack of chops--this is a SLOW tune. I can double time on Ballad standards and it feels okay. With this tune, if you are not careful, you end of loosing the groove. I think this tune is groove dependent. Like bluesy, 1st line, groove dependent. Like a slow gospel. Or maybe like a slow down and dirty blues. Going double time is possible, but it's not the same way you go double time on a ballad...
Got great advice from a teacher in the past. He said, don't forget to leave space to punctuate the phrase. Space is part the musical expression. Not always like Miles Davis type space, but even Charlie Parker was well aware of how to use space to shape the phrase.
Does that make sense? Even Joe Henderson does double time different here than on the countless other ballads he's played on... by the way, his playing on Isfahan is beautiful.Last edited by PickingMyEars; 03-19-2021 at 03:07 PM.
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Originally Posted by kris
A few years ago I took a class from Toninho. He has his own take on harmony -- very sophisticated and always pretty -- and he plays it on standard tuning. It's really quite amazing. He played some American standards and made them sound like he wrote them. He's a brilliant composer, arranger and guitarist.
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03-19-2021, 06:02 PM #38Dutchbopper GuestOriginally Posted by lawson-stone
A 350 is a very rare vintage guitar and quite expensive. Think L5 prices. The last one was made in 1956! But they sound lovely yes. Tal Farlow recorded his best work with one in the mid 50s.
DB
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Originally Posted by Peter C
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tried something different.
I didn't listen to GG before this take. I didn't listen to jazz.
What did I listen to...? Any guesses? May not have translated into my playing yet, but it's a bit of an evil experiment
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
Originally Posted by Peter C
Originally Posted by PickingMyEars
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Originally Posted by kris
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Good job Jeff! For me, keep posting your "JGBE virtual jam, round x" threads. If I wanted (and had time) to propose something else, I'd just do it. Again, nice playing and I really like the balance you strike between blues and bop.
I know I need and want to incorporate more bop elements in my soloing. However, I think one needs to avoid going OTT with this particular tune.
rpjazzguitar, that was very tasty and just right for the tune, IMO. I hope to show that degree of restraint when I grow up Was that somebody saying "sounds good" in the background? I agree. Thanks for appreciating my take.
Tommo, thanks. Actually, after listening to rpjazz's take, I think you're probably right.
Kris, I listened to the first 2 minutes of both your takes and the sparsity in your phrasing really sets off the melodic content in your lines, along with judicious use of "just the right amount" of outside notes. Good stuff!
As regards my take(s), you gotta understand that I usually have about 2-3 hours after work on Friday to get something done.
This often involves quickly learning the ***!!!""$$ tune to begin with, then coming up with something more or less musical before uploading it. Yes, it's tempting to grab the Strat and blues this one to the hilt. Not gonna happenLast edited by Peter C; 03-20-2021 at 08:53 AM.
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Lots happened while I unplugged for an evening!
Let me see here...
Rp, nice take. You take your time, develop some ideas, no rushing, always in pocket.
Peter C, love the energy, as always...and I see you picked that track with the drums that hit a little harder...good choice. That seems trivial, but to me it says you know your playing and you made a decision that would allow you to express yourself better. That's important.
Still want to see somebody take me up on my "keep it short" challenge...but I'll also challenge myself and do a longer take today. And no "Careless Whisper" this time, I promise...
Oops, missed PickingmyEars! And Kris re-upload-ed!
Picking, I have no idea what you listened to but I liked the take. If you're cool with one bit of criticism, sometimes you land on cool notes, but you just let them die...a little jim hall "back and forth" vibrato to extend the life of the note would go a long way in making your lines sound more confident.
Kris-- first observation-- you sound like you on whatever guitar you play, which is a great thing. The slow bossa really works, and your thoughtful, melodic playing is really enjoyable.
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Yeah, thanks. I think I opened the first or second YT backing track (the GG-style one) and said let's do this before the neighbours start complaining
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I think it's high time to make a decision.
I'm leaving Virtual Jam.
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Originally Posted by kris
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Me too...
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Anyway - here's my take. The backing track has two choruses of the head so I played them. I wanted to edit the first one and the second solo chorus to keep it short but my software kept crashing so I decided to just upload it to youtube the way it is. One bum note but I kept it in there instead of redoing - it's ajam, right?
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