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Originally Posted by AlsoRan
Maybe even E and F. If I can't practice things in every key, I like to do them two keys, a half step apart. It puts the fretboard dots in a different place so you can't get too complacent.
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05-23-2019 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by morroben
Last edited by AlsoRan; 05-24-2019 at 01:01 PM.
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I'll start a section 1 thread on Sunday or Monday. I'm thinking it should include the introduction and chapters 1 and 2, and we'll work on it for a couple of weeks or until most of the group seems ready to move on. Open to input on that.
Back in 2012, Frank did a new thread for each section of the study group. I think that's a great idea. It will keep things separate, and folks that might fall a little behind can still post in the section they're working on.
The intro involves reading (not exercises) chapters 26-28. If you don't have the book yet, it might sound like a lot, but it's not long and it's light reading.
A little preview...one of the things the author encourages is to make a list of 10 songs to learn over the next 3-6 months. I'm going to round that up to 7 months and say that I want to learn 10 new songs by the end of the year.
So start thinking about your list of 10 songs, or whatever number you think is realistic for you. I think the number is less important than making sure it's something you can actually stick to and finish. 3 songs would still be progress.
I would encourage everyone to post their list when they have it.Last edited by morroben; 05-24-2019 at 08:18 PM. Reason: wording/clarity
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Ok, was looking for the stimulus of a study group with summer coming, and as luck has it, I already own this book! Not sure I can wrangle the posting but I'm game to get involved and keep up. Let's do this!
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Originally Posted by AlsoRan
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A bit of recruiting for more folks to join the study group.
Introduction to Jazz Guitar Soloing... I think they title can make this look like this is a beginners book. Not necessarily so... This is college level material and was (is?) the curriculum for classes at Musicians Institute.
If you aren't fluent at arpeggios, the connecting game, the altered scale then the first half of the book is for you. I haven't done the last half of the book but looking at the chapter names they include; harmonizing the melodic minor scale, Locrian # 2, Lydian b7, chromatic connections, other melodic devices.
I put together this video of some shortened cut up clips of a few of my videos when I went though the 1st half of the book. I think this shows bit of where this book will take you.
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Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt
I have to be honest with you, if I can indeed create some nice solos - not earth-shattering - but nice solos using two positions, I will be happy with that due to my lack of free time to practice.
Just my thoughts.
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I haven‘t cared much about Jazz guitar lately as I have ventured elsewhere musically. However, that book really helped me and, like Fep said, I have not made much progress since then. I would be happy to tackle it again as a musical and technical practice routine that is immensely helpful.
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Originally Posted by Frank67
Do you find yourself improvising in your current favorite music genre?
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Originally Posted by AlsoRan
It is mostly Pink Floyd and other rock music stuff these days that I am emotionally more connected to than jazz. Over the years I found myself not really enjoying that much listening to jazz; Hence I am also not feeling it the way I should in order to get better or even fluent at it. I always struggled with the 2+4 jazz feel that just doesn't come naturally to me. Gypsy jazz is something I sometimes listen too and where I also had some aspirations to learn the technique and vocabulary.
But to answer your question - yes, I am improvising but the changes are very much simpler (not having to make knots in my head while trying to play at the same time); also many of the solo's are sort of so classic that they just need to be learned.
I still feel that I got a lot out of that Elliot book in terms of the connecting game, the use of color tones, the writing and concrete use of licks, inside/outside and all that. I listened back to some of the stuff we did before the group fell apart and I think I was better than than I am now (not technically but in terms of putting it together, knowing scales and arpeggios etc.). I would be interested in revisiting that since I feel that this approach holds up for any kind of music, not just jazz.
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My loyalty at the moment is to the Patterns for Jazz material, so I don't know how much active participation I'll have with this group. I've been looking to incorporate this material into my practice routine, though. I'll be following along and contributing if I can.
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The section 1 study group thread is open. Come join in over there.
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Hello, I just found I soday (June 22) although I have been working on this book for the last few weeks, so it is great timing. I will try to join in and follow along.
New to this forum and to posting. Really appreciate all of the posts and knowledge/experience sharing.
Thanks,
Joe
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Originally Posted by jcramer12
This was a thread just to judge interest. We started a separate thread once we actually got started. It's slow going over there and some of us are working on things outside of the book's exercises, but you're welcome to join in if you're interested. You'll find it over here...
Intro to Jazz Guitar Soloing (Reissue): Section 1
-Ben
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