-
Originally Posted by vintagelove
I think the method itself looks promising. I just have a problem with the name. If I were teaching it, I'd mention that the note pairs were derived from the pentatonic scales, but I wouldn't call them "pentatonic pairs."
-
02-24-2016 01:33 PM
-
Originally Posted by vintagelove
-
Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
-
Originally Posted by Boston Joe
If you went from F to Bb, the notes would be: F and G, Bb and C. (Three of the notes are the same! But now F and G are the 5th and 6, while C is the 2nd or 9th.)
If you hear a riff that works over all the changes of a blues (such as Ellington's "C Jam Blues" or "Happy Go Lucky Local"), it's a safe bet these notes are making the magic.
Lots of boogie riffs are built on these notes. (They usually have the third too.) Also, ensemble riffs can be made of them----this Benny Goodman tune has three of my favorite ones. They start at 2:22, right after Benny's clarinet solo. (An "ensemble riff" is a riff played by the band which is not the head nor a solo--it's arranged, simple, and punchy. Here it gives way to another solo.)
-
A question: So to clarify(for me), to make a pentatonic pair the formula is always R, 2, 5, 6 of the key. Is this correct?
TIA, edh
-
Originally Posted by edh
more importantly look at a ii v I
Dm. G. C
look how the pentatonic scale fits over that
2-3...5-6...121 (or 123)
those little pairs link together to flow through the changes.
step two is you add the 3rd to each chord
234..567..123
then add chromatic passing tones
then diatonic vocabulary
then descending chromatic vocabulary
then playing the upper structure notes using what he calls the b7setup
then half diminished vocabulary
then diminished vocabulary
playing blues over changes in tunes (hello benson fans)
He does more but that is the core of his system. He does each of those "steps" over each standard. I'll see if I can find a video.
-
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QhUzwhNzPPI
Willie teaches how to play "On Green Dolphin Street"Last edited by MarkRhodes; 02-24-2016 at 10:39 PM.
-
Well I can't figure out how to post the video, a little help fellas
-
The video is exactly how he goes through each tune.
the first chord he plays (in relation to the chord) 56 121 65, 56 121
this is a great example of the sound of the pentatonic pairs. As mark pointed out, it's basically I Got Ryhthm.
Hope that helps.
-
@V, thanks I think I'm getting a handle on this.
thanks
-
02-25-2016, 06:25 AM #61destinytot Guest
Fantastic thread!
Originally Posted by Boston Joe
-
02-25-2016, 06:27 AM #62destinytot GuestOriginally Posted by MarkRhodes
-
02-25-2016, 07:36 AM #63destinytot GuestOriginally Posted by MarkRhodes
It's perhaps ironic that studying at Berklee is - er - 'beyond reach' (and not only for reasons of cost).
On the one hand, I'm quite content plodding along as I do (trying not to make the band sound bad on gigs). On the other hand, I have a lot to say musically - but not the knowledge and skills to say it all (... yet).
Fortunately, knowledge and skills can be acquired and developed.
I'm signed up to Richie Zellon's online course, which gives me a focus for consolidating fundamentals, and I take occasional Skype lessons. And, like others (probably), I've invested a small fortune in books over the years.
The right guidance and coaching makes a world of difference; I'm signing up for Willie's system, too.
Roman Dodecahedron (12 sided) die discovered,...
Today, 11:16 AM in Everything Else