Modern Jazz Guitar Improvisation

[cubistguitar]

I like some of this new crowd, have heard the most from Monder and like him very well. I don't listen for trad chops or a jazz lineage, but melody and texture and form are of interest. I just don't understand why these guys don't do a little more with all the new fx out there. I mean, there is so much available to effect the guitar with before and after the mic records it, and i just don't hear it going that way. I would think a creative imporvisor would be the ideal user of guitar fxes and modelers and such. But that is petty, overall i like the new players, especially Monder.

[Lambosoa]

The emphasis is on "new" versions of ATTYA, but as you say, many can't even make the changes - don't get me wrong, I love jazz and I love modern jazz players, but I also think that there are not many real new guitarists out there that have had an impact on jazz as Pat Metheny, Bill Frisell and John Scofield - and these guys are the old guys nowadays. Nobody of the "not-so-young" guitarists (Monder, Rosenwinkel, Cardenas, Muthspiel, Kreisberg) has "grabbed" me like those big 3 did way back then. I love them all, especially Rosenwinkel and Muthspiel whose careeers I've been following since the beginning but it's all not that "new".
Metheny IMHO is probably the most influential and important player and especially composer of jazz around - time will tell. I admire people that can blow over changes but I really love guys who also write their own tunes.Playing standards is a lot of fun but I always prefer musicians playing their own tunes OR making standards or other material really their own.
That's also the reason why I love some European guitarists, especially Eivind Aarset and Stian Westerhus - maybe both not "real" jazz guitarists in the sense of knowing bebop, but they have their own thing and took the "tradition" of Frisell, Torn and Rypdal to the next level - while creating something new...
Just my 0.02 €

And I love playing standards, too

Agree 1000%.
I would just add John McLaughlin as someone who helped shaping what "Modern jazz guitar" sounds like.

The "new" guys' innovation is not much in the way they play but in the tunes they are playing, more so.

For the playing itself, they just marginally add some personal touch to the vocabulary 'invented' by Metheny & Scofield, mostly.

This is not to say they are not great musicians, though.