A Somewhat Surprising Observation About the Altered Scale

[Strat-itis]

Heya - do you have a specific example in mind of Monk using the diminished scale?

Sure. 4:40.

[Christian Miller]

Sure. 4:40.

I make it this



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[Strat-itis]

Tritone sub!

[pauln]

Wonderful thread, making me feel a little dizzy. Sometimes I find clarity by reversing perspective (I do a lot of things backwards).

If CST suggests the chords first and the theory is the application of scales to them, the reverse perspective (SCT) is to start with a melodic structure comprising scale (arp) elements and seeking a progression segment for their application.

For example, play a melodic thing that you would identify as a piece of whole-half diminished followed by another piece of whole-half diminished a half step lower; so like a bar of Bb WHdim followed by a bar of A WHdim. Can you find a progression segment (not a modulation) for that? Do you recognize a tune(s) that has this harmonic change? Does the tune(s) support this melodic structure?

[Mick-7]

Wonderful thread, making me feel a little dizzy. Sometimes I find clarity by reversing perspective (I do a lot of things backwards).

I have noticed that my use of altered scales is more creative when I'm in an altered state of consciousness - funny how that works.

[pauln]

Major Scale Modes
Ionian (A.K.A. Major)
Dorian
Phrygian
Lydian
Mixolydian
Aeolian (A.K.A. Minor, Natural Minor, Pure Minor)
Locrian
Melodic Minor Modes
Melodic Minor
Phrygian #6 (A.K.A. Dorian b2)
Lydian Augmented
Lydian Dominant (A.K.A. Mixolydian #4)
Fifth Mode (A.K.A. Mixolydian b6, Hindu)
Locrian #2 (A.K.A. Aeolian b5, Half Diminished)
Altered (A.K.A. Diminished Whole Tone, Super Locrian)
Symmetric Scales
Whole Tone
Diminished Whole Half (A.K.A. Whole Half)
Diminished Half Whole (A.K.A. Half Whole)
Pentatonic Scales
Major Pentatonic
Minor Pentatonic
Suspended Pentatonic
Dominant Pentatonic (A.K.A. Mixolydian Pentatonic)
Traditional Japanese "in sen"
Blues Scales
Blues
Bebop Scales
Bebop Major
Bebop Minor (A.K.A. Bebop Dorian)
Bebop Dominant
Bebop Melodic Minor
Harmonic Scales
Harmonic Major
Harmonic Minor (A.K.A. Mohammedan)
Double Harmonic Major (A.K.A. Arabic, Byzantine)
Exotic Scales
Hungarian Gypsy (A.K.A. Hungarian Minor)
Hungarian Major
Phrygian Dominant (A.K.A. Spanish, Spanish Phrygian, Spanish Gypsy, Jewish)
Neapolitan Minor
Neapolitan Major
Enigmatic
Eight-tone Spanish
Balinese Pelog (A.K.A. Balinese, Pelog)
Oriental
Iwato
Yo
Prometheus
Symmetrical
Major Locrian (A.K.A. Arabian)
Miscellaneous
Chromatic
Augmented
Lydian Minor

Scale Dictionary
will let you hear any these in any key