The Other Lick.

[brent.h]

here's a compilation:

could it have come from here?:

[garybaldy]

Do I play that over:
Ab - Eb
Abm - Eb
Dalt - G
Galt - C
Eb7 - Abma7
any more?

[AllanAllen]

Isn’t this the Honeysuckle Rose lick?

[pamosmusic]

Isn’t this the Honeysuckle Rose lick?

Super close but not quite

[brent.h]

Do I play that over:
Ab - Eb
Abm - Eb
Dalt - G
Galt - C
Eb7 - Abma7
any more?

haha that's quite a list. i hear mostly as a basic V to I or i line.

Let's assume I or i is Eb. That would make the V Bb7, which in Barry's world, is kinda the same as G7, E7, Db7, F-6, D-6, B-6, Ab-6 because they all come from the same diminished chord.

Lots of possibilities, and that's just from assuming the tonic is Eb. If the tonic is Abmaj7, you have another set dominants and minor 6 chords to play with.

[joe2758]

How does someone go about compiling something like that?

[brent.h]

Isn’t this the Honeysuckle Rose lick?

The Other Lick:

Bb -> Ab (maj 2nd down)
Ab -> Eb (perf 4th down)
Eb -> F (maj 2nd up)
F -> G (maj 2nd up)

Honeysuckle Lick

Bb -> Ab (maj 2nd down)
Ab -> C (min 6th down)
C -> Eb (min 3rd up)
Eb -> G (maj 3rd up)

So yeah they have 4 notes in common, have the same melodic direction or 'contour' (not sure if this is the correct term), and start & end on the same notes.

I feel Honeysuckle Lick is more energetic because it has more leaps than steps.

[brent.h]

How does someone go about compiling something like that?

The guy must have listened to a crap tonne of music and have great ears!

[Mick-7]

The guy must have listened to a crap tonne of music and have great ears!

More likely just used AI.

But now I'm annoyed, my lick was served lukewarm without a green salad.

[garybaldy]

haha that's quite a list. i hear mostly as a basic V to I or i line.

Let's assume I or i is Eb. That would make the V Bb7, which in Barry's world, is kinda the same as G7, E7, Db7, F-6, D-6, B-6, Ab-6 because they all come from the same diminished chord.

Lots of possibilities, and that's just from assuming the tonic is Eb. If the tonic is Abmaj7, you have another set dominants and minor 6 chords to play with.

I think I left out the Bb7 - Eb because of the eb 1/8 note. But it is ok - think of it as Fm7 or Bb11.

[AllanAllen]

The Other Lick:

Bb -> Ab (maj 2nd down)
Ab -> Eb (perf 4th down)
Eb -> F (maj 2nd up)
F -> G (maj 2nd up)

Honeysuckle Lick

Bb -> Ab (maj 2nd down)
Ab -> C (min 6th down)
C -> Eb (min 3rd up)
Eb -> G (maj 3rd up)

So yeah they have 4 notes in common, have the same melodic direction or 'contour' (not sure if this is the correct term), and start & end on the same notes.

I feel Honeysuckle Lick is more energetic because it has more leaps than steps.

I'm even more wrong, I thought the Honeysuckle lick was the part where the lyrics say Honeysuckle Rose.

G F Eb C Eb

[brent.h]

Earlier today, I was just checking out some tunes and heard this line here:

(1932) see 0:16

Later in the evening, I heard it again, this time on an older tune:

(1918) see 0:44

[PMB]

Nice catch. Yes, it's everywhere. Just off the top of my head, I'm hearing it in bar 14 of Yesterdays and bar 2 (with a tweak to the final note) and bar 6 of Out of Nowhere.

[PMB]

It's also in the opening phrase of Benny Golson's I Remember Clifford.

[PMB]

...and towards the end of In The Still of the Night (in rhythmically extended form) over the words, "will this dream of mine fade out of sight".

I'm sure others will come to mind through the day. It's like telling jokes - each one triggers another.

[PMB]

Ok, the first two phrases of the bridge to Have You Met Miss Jones have the same tweaked version of the lick (last note flattened a semitone) that occurs in Out of Nowhere.

Funnily enough, an early memory is my father whistling that exact lick, prefaced by an alternating chromatic figure, in the car nearly every morning as he dropped us off to school. I asked him one day what it was and he had no idea that he'd been whistling it or the name of the tune!

[PMB]

The 2nd bar of Yardbird Suite and lick at the end of the 'A' section in Estate by Bruno Martino.

[brent.h]

So far we have:

Clarinet Marmalade (1918)
Out Of Nowhere (1931)
Lullaby of The Leaves (1932)
Yesterday (1933)
Have You Met Miss Jones (1937)
In The Still of The Night (1937)
Yardbird Suite (1946)
I Remember Clifford (1957)
Estate (1960)

I'd like to add another to the list - Speak Low (1943).

[brent.h]

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (1933)

[Peng1026]

for me it's altered 7th resolves to the tonic (i or I).
Yeah, It's a often heard lick and definitely not the honey suckle rose lick

[brent.h]

Eternal Flame (1990) - The Bangles

bar 4 into 5