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Tim Pierce talks about Ben Eller in one of his videos, recommended his channel, so I started following him.
This is a great tip that Ben got from massive_bass_nerd.
My take (with a larger, thicker pick that I use to pick with):
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01-09-2023 12:45 PM
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I hope this works for flailing arms of pop singers as well.
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Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what is wrong with resting fingers on the pickguard? If they stay out of the way when necessary what is the issue?
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Originally Posted by KingKong
At the moment if I'm playing something where the upstroke escapes, because of the angle of the hand I do usually rest some fingers on the pickguard.
I've also seen Guthrie Govan rest his pinky on the pickguard.
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Originally Posted by KingKong
When I do a lot of strumming in quarter notes in uptempo songs, making a wrist helps a lot getting the right punch into my playing.
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Originally Posted by bluenote61
His main point is about players playing with a really tense picking hand, fingers all stretched and warped. Solution to that is not be tense! U can have ur fingers chillin' on the pick guard no worries.
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This is very very cool!
Thank you.
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Splayed fingers seems to work just fine for Jimmy....
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Are the Americans giving advice about technique again? Bless ‘em.
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The sad thing is how many guitarists out there that will be wasting their time worrying about this instead of enjoying playing the instrument
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Originally Posted by KingKong
This helps me stay in the zone between neck pickup and fingerboard for the tone I like best, which was the reason I started to consider the issue. I found myself moving toward the bridge with my long time practice of holding the pick between thumb and first two fingers and my hand and arm off the instrument. I also find it easier to keep my picking light and more consistent with my current approach.
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by dasein
I jest, but it does seem European players are endlessly technical and American players are about the vibe and groove. It’s a vast generalisation of course.
And while it’s hard to find two top US jazz players who use the same technique, almost all the European Manouche players play the same way…
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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American as in American by nationality, ethnicity or what? The guy in the OP seemed to be of European ancestry.
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Is there a topic that has been done to death more on you tube than "rock guitar gear and techniques"?
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Fingers do not flail. Arms flail.
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Originally Posted by djg
some
of them….
are?
ah forget it :-)
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Originally Posted by KingKong
If it works for you, great!
I prefer not to do that. When I do, my hand tilts in a way that makes matters worse for me. I played that way for a long time. I was comfortable with it but my picking was a mess!
Different strokes for different folks.
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Originally Posted by Vihar
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Originally Posted by KingKong
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Just a few points:
It's not a pick guard it's a finger rest.
Drawing your fingers up into a ball/first shape requires a good deal more tension than allowing fingers to naturally hang where they may.
Actively splaying said naturally hanging fingers requires even more tension than drawing them up into a ball.
Nobody cares what you you choose to do but you should at least know the differences between the choices.
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Originally Posted by MarkRhodes
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Everybody is different, so it's not for everyone. Ben is primarily a "shredder/metal" type player and speed is highly valued by them, but it's never been one of my strengths. I can see reducing wasted motion to increase efficiency helping somewhat, but I think being able to relax when playing fast is more important. It may be worth a try to see if it helps.
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