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Originally Posted by grahambop
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11-27-2017 10:55 AM
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That's very pretty, thanks, but really not what I'm talking about.
Originally Posted by janjakut
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No, Keef's five string tele...
Originally Posted by pcjazz
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So, as a relative newbie (longtime bassist that picked up the guitar a couple of years ago), it would be cool to see some other examples of the "classics" - and I mean the greasy/bluesy double stop licks ala Kenny Burrell, Grant Green, etc. I've searched the web, but never found a good compilation of the most common examples. Maybe folks could post some of their favorites or recommend a resource that covers this?
Originally Posted by christianm77
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Giblet Gravy comes to mind, if I'm remembering accurately.
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On George Benson's instructional video there's a burst of double stops maybe 20 seconds long that he demonstrates that blew my mind. Wish I had a transcription of it or could find the video. I'd steel every one.
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Keef.
Originally Posted by pcjazz
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Hey Jan, maybe this is not what Anton was after, but it's really nice stuff. I'm working on getting this kind of thing into my playing, (which I think of as holding 2 and 3-note chords under a single note line, as opposed to punching them in, a la barney kessel) I was motivated by
Originally Posted by janjakut
a lesson I took with Steve Herbermann recently, and also careful listening to Gilad Hex, and Lage lund, and all the other guys Anton hates
but to the original topic: practicing major scales in 3rd and 6th double stops doesnt take long to incorporate and gets at that bluesy double stop thing.
Playing in 4rths and 5ths is also pretty easy on the guitar, but is bit more ambiguous sounding.
Of course you can cheat too: I remember tying to cop a Jim Hall solo in parallel 5ths, only to realize he was using a pedal!
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Yeah double stops (or dyads) is just two notes at the same time.... You may as well ask, which players still play blues ideas?
Who is the bluesiest of the current crop of jazzers?
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Mark Whitfield.
Originally Posted by christianm77
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Well let’s say under 40
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Originally Posted by christianm77
Me! Shit, blues is all I got. (And I'm just BARELY under 40
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Last edited by mr. beaumont; 11-30-2017 at 03:52 PM.
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I took a lesson with a guy online, and after playing a couple of lines for him he said, "You've got some good blues in your playing. Don't lose that."
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
'Cause yeah, for about, oh, 25 years there, blues was all I played. Well, the occasional Knopfler style dorian run, but mostly blues.
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Grant Green's Sookie Sookie.
Originally Posted by kevmoga
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I cannot believe no one mentioned has the late Herb Ellis who was quite fond of double stops on the 1st and 2nd strings and bluesy ones on the 3rd and second strings !
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Chuck Berry. Forever.
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yeah man...chuck was the king of double stops...and the guys that influenced him...like carl hogan of the immensely popular louis jordan band,oscar and johnny moore, t-bone walker...etc etc...more a west coast jump music or rhythm 'n blues thing...
Originally Posted by destinytot
modern master is the great junior watson
cheers
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Love it - thanks!
Originally Posted by neatomic
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hahaha, yeah, you got me! It's almost true, but hate is too simple a word, the feelings are complicated lol. It's more about the direction they take the jazz guitar that I can't get on board with. Like you said, you got motivated, and i never did, and it means I'm outta the game! There is no future for me, arghhhh! But at least i have my double stops, I'll stick to it, I did it myyyy waaay .
Originally Posted by pkirk
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That's cool! I think the guitar he's playing is the same Eddie Van Halen used on ''Little Guitars''... But I might be wrong.
Originally Posted by neatomic
While it's def cool playing, it's a blues style, not really jazz. What I wanna hear is, for example, tunes like Moonlight In Vermont, or There's No Greater Love, that has nothing to do with blues, but you can still stick some double stops in it and it's sounds heavenly... That kinda thing.
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I think Herb Ellis is not quite relevant to this discussion.
Originally Posted by gtrplrfla
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I beg to differ. Herb Ellis was highly influenced by the blues and furthermore, the topic is "Double stops in Jazz." How is he irrelevant ?
Originally Posted by christianm77
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Well, because the OP was getting at the idea of are there STILL people out there doing it...
Originally Posted by gtrplrfla
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One never do know ...
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
John



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