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Originally Posted by princeplanet
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07-07-2016 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by joe2758
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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ugh who am I kidding I'm not a cat yet
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by princeplanet
Been trying some different combinations, but I'm thinking pick notes 1 and 2 and slur the 3rd. (Which means you pick the next note on the beat) is quite funky because you are hitting the second note of the triplet which is always cool.
But on the other hand, picking 1, 3 and slur into the next beat is more like the eight note rules.Last edited by christianm77; 07-07-2016 at 10:44 AM.
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I do whatever works ... My goal is usually to slur both of the second two notes but obviously that's often not possible. Truth be told I've thought a lot about that and I'm not really sure how to articulate that ... I also imagined I was choosing to slur when possible mostly because my pick isn't fast.
Embellishments ala Donna Lee definitely pick-slur-slur ... Same with sort of chromatic walkups like the end of m6 in Scrapple from the Apple are the same. Though sometimes I like to pick the last triplet to accent the pull into the downbeat.
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
I feel you re: the walk up. (A Gypsy jazz player would articulate the walk up DUDD incidentally)
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Originally Posted by PMB
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
Last edited by PMB; 07-08-2016 at 03:53 AM.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by PMB
I'll share my own fingering (based on what I can glean from Moreno's) as a comparison, if I get a moment.
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Originally Posted by PMB
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Moreno's definitely picking the first two triplet eights on DL, and then slurring the third onto the beat. I really like this effect. He uses this articulation several times in his version of the head - everywhere where there's a triplet basically.
I can't find a youtube of him, so you'll just have to buy the lesson if you want to see him do it sadly..Last edited by christianm77; 07-08-2016 at 09:57 AM.
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The start of it anyway. This took quite a bit of careful watching. Does anyone know of a video player that will allow you to add a marker to and/or loop the video? Would make progress a bit quicker... :-)
Things I notice
- Mike plays the notes a little different to way I learned it - a few differences musically.
- He doesn't overdo the legato thing - for example he picks in a couple of places where he could use a slur.
- He picks the second triplet as well as the first on those embellishments.
- Ending on a downstroke on the off beat is big and clever
- I really hate doing pull offs
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Christian, not sure if this helps, but I used VLC video player to slow down one of the videos I purchased from mymusicmasterclasses
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Originally Posted by joe2758
EDIT: that's exactly the thing. Cheers!Last edited by christianm77; 07-08-2016 at 02:32 PM.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
As I stated, my approach unconsciously reflects trying to match the contour and shapes of the material with the fingerings. The tune for me has a kind of tumbling quality that requires lots of movement. Thinking about this, I'm totally self-taught on the guitar (but a classically-trained pianist - go figure!). I started out at 8 years old back in 1969 playing lines with one finger, all over the neck. Pentatonic boxes, CAGED, 7 positions and use of the other fingers all came gradually when I'd hit a wall. After thorough immersion in all types of systematic fingerings and mappings of the guitar neck, I find I'm coming out the other side and I've noticed that most of my favourite recent players like Peter Bernstein, Romain Pilon and Jesse Van Ruller seem to have a very non-doctrinaire approach to fingerings and positions, preferring to employ whatever gets the job done.
Incidentally, I don't necessarily catch all those slurs when playing the head. I also purposefully left them out where I wanted to more clearly articulate the form.
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Originally Posted by PMB
I don't think there's anything wrong with systems, but it's easy to get carried away :-)
In the end I don't think I'll copy Mike (or your) fingerings, I'll come up with something that suits me. But it's good to see different options and spend time thinking about what you do...
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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07-09-2016, 05:06 AM #74dortmundjazzguitar GuestOriginally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by dortmundjazzguitar
I don't personally think the string skips that big a deal given you have plenty of time to deal with it.
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