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Barnes uses a very horn like approach with subtle vibrato here on held notes.
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03-27-2020 08:23 AM
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John Abercrombie had a beautiful vibrato. Miss him.
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Originally Posted by P.J.
He did some fantastic trio albums.
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This topic reminded me that when doing a very slight stretch when the tone starts to die, it gets a bit of energy back (tonewise) and lasts a bit longer.
Since the frequency tends to drop anyway, this doesn't seem like a crime to me.
Well, one less reason to use some silly electronics sometimes.
Not bend but just stretch it along the strings direction.
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No vibrato in jazz? Sidney would beg to differ.
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Was listening to Grant Green again last night (Born to be Blue)...lots of subtle vibrato...almost every held note. Vibrato doesn't have to be that over-sized nonsense, or the Angus Young "bee sting." Just like every singer doesn't have to be Celine Dion.
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Vibrato was the only physical technique I was able to apply to guitar from my 5 or so years playing the violin in Grade and Jr. High School.
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I use quite a bit of vib watching my vids. Especially on acoustic.
Django obv used it loads
Flatwound strings dampen the effect so it sounds a bit less wide.
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Originally Posted by AndyV
nowadays i think it's fab.
taboo schmaboo....if i wanted to be all By The Rules i'd join Der Fuehrer's Ve Must Have Uniformity Marching Band Inc, A Division Of Haliburton Precision Ultra-Rigid Engineering Ltd.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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I don't understand why vibrato is so underused in jazz guitar either. It might have caught on around the time B.B. King came around, but it didn't. I guess most jazz guitarists except people like Kenny Burrell looked down on pure blues players at the time (B.B. King was a genius nonetheless). It all depends how it's done and used, but vibrato can only be a plus IMO. Maybe it's still largely absent and frowned upon because people are too lazy (one more hard thing to work on), or bound by so-called conventions, which oddly are supposed to apply to the guitar, but not the trumpet, the saxophone, the bass... But lo and behold, one of today's best players, Julian Lage uses vibrato. Horror of horrors, Lage even plays jazz guitar without an amplifier... the nerve of this guy!
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Well, Jim Hall absolutely loved BB King (said he'd rather listen to him than a lot of jazz guitarists), and yet I'd say he's one of the most influential in developing the even, vibrato-free modern jazz guitar sound... I think he just liked to play like that?
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Originally Posted by m_d
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Originally Posted by Fortune
Also, B.B. said in that video that he rarely applied vibrato to a bent string, if ever. Applying vibrato to a bent string seems to be de rigeur for a blues-rock guitarist since 1966 (the year of John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers album with Eric Clapton).
The highest I can bend a string and still apply a B.B. King-like vibrato is a semitone, which kind of leaves me “out in the cold” as far as blues guitar goes
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Originally Posted by Lobomov
I lose control of the note if I try to do that with my hand.
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I think vibrato in jazz guitar is superb, but I wonder if it might feel "off" from time to time because many guitar players tend to do a sort of compulsive, nervous vibrato? This part of one's technique, I've only ever heard addressed by one teacher I had, a session player. I've seen some great players really flub their phrases because they do that horrible, thoughtless vibrato that should otherwise be relegated to blues jams...
Deliberate, or slow/timed vibrato as a conscious choice, however..!
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Ending every lick or scale run with a self congratulatory vibrato is a taboo in jazz. Seems to be considered pretty normal in rock guitar.
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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If you listen carefully to horn players like Chet Baker and Lee Konitz, they often put a subtle quick vibrato on the end of a note or a phrase, even when playing quite fast. It’s possible to do this on the guitar sometimes, I think it makes a big difference and helps the note ‘sing’. It’s not something that jumps out at you like a rock vibrato however.
If you watch the videos online of Jimmy Raney, you can see him doing it.
I often forget to do it, but it’s definitely worth cultivating.
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This is something that always had my interest. Here I´m bending melodies over altered chords.
For me bends in jazz is more about prebend/release bend.. I hope it brings a little to the discussion...
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Originally Posted by Uffe Steen
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There's another side of this - which is that jazz study has focussed on pitch choices at the expense of tone, taste, time and touch... (Also the modern post war aesthetic favoured minimal vibrato and pitch bends in all styles of music.)
So is it any surprise that jazz guitarists sometimes leave these resources under-utilised?
Hey Uffe, sounding great!
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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The beauty of jazz lies inside a perfect combination. It all about applying the semitone and tone in a sweet way. thats what i believe. Technique is like extra sauce
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