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Hi, I recently started playing Jazz and realized that it will work better on an E-guitar than on the acoustic guitars I played in the past 12 years. Next week I can collect a Framus Mayfield, but I don't have a suitable Amp yet. I would prefer to get a high-quality product that I can use for many years at home as well as on small gigs (guitar trio in churches, school orchestra etc.). The sound I'm trying to get ranges from Martino to Scofield and Larry Carlton. I don't matter whether it's used or new, tube or transistor. I don't plan on spending much more than 1000-1300€ on it. Do you have any recommendations? Thank you for your answers!
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06-11-2023 06:01 AM
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Right off the top of my head I would say no harm in checking out a Fender Tone Master Deluxe Reverb. Great sound, 10.4KG, and they are popular enough that you should be able to find one in a music store and not have to 'pay to play' it. But you have a lot of choices with that much Euro!
Last edited by jim777; 06-12-2023 at 10:24 AM.
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I use a DV Mark Little Jazz for almost everything. I think it's a great choice. It weighs 15 lbs and is about a 10.5 inch cube. 40 watts and just about loud enough to keep up with a big band. I've been doing that -- but I think it would be fair to point out that some players might prefer to be louder.
I've heard good things aboaut the Tonemaster line too.
Others like the AER Compact 60 and the Henricksen Bud or Blu. The LJ is competitive sound-wise according to a number of people on here, and much cheaper.
Depends on how much weight you want to carry, your budget, the loudness of the amp and, somewhere in there, your judgement about the soudn quality.
Good luck picking one!
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A Fender Tone Master Princeton could also be a great choice. You can use the attenuator to dial down the output volume while keeping the tone settings where you like them. Plus XLR out with two different mic models to choose from, but a front face that is classic Fender simple.
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In that price range you can also find a used GLB GIG50. Very high quality amp, 50W tube.
P.s., don't search for them on Reverb, the prices are mad there.
Not sure from where're you, but I would suggest to take a look on thr Italian site: Mercatino Musicale - Strumenti musicali nuovi e usati
Best, Adam
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I previously had a DV Mark Jazz 12, great amp, but has some limits when playing very loud. Recently bought a Fender Princeton Recording, you can see some subjective impressions from amps I tried and also the experience from playing in home in this thread: Fender Princeton Recording Amp - wow, never heard such a sweet sound from my archtop
I can't say anything bad about a Princeton, both Reissue (or the "Recording" version) or Tone Master left a very very positive impression on me. Good luck and let us know what you choose!
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Bose S1.
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For you're case , you'll want to be able do clean
and a bit of dirt too (Scofield. Etc)
Little jazz , Bose , AER etc won't do that
So maybe a Tonemaster would be good
And I think you've got that kind of money
On the very cheap end
A Fender Champion 20 or 40 are good too much
Played a Champion 40 at a jam the other day
Which I really liked
A quilter Superblock with a Toob speaker
Is also very good and super light to carry
(Probably the loudest per Kg out there at the moment)
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Originally Posted by pingu
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Vox TB18 Tony Bruno is a nice solid Amp with a smooth breakup.
By the way, the Framus Mayfield is a fantastic guitar! Had one years ago, regret that I sold it...
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What is your experience with the s1? Is it s suitable all around amp for guitar? Does it require a preamp or could you theoretically use it direct from guitar? Originally Posted by ronjazz
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toob.fi
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Twin Reverb.
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Quilter (block with a speaker or a combo) or Fender Tonemaster (twin or DR) are solid choices.
Another option would be a powered speaker with something like a Zoom multiFX for amp emulation and other fun stuff. Extra benefit would be that you can use it for acoustic guitar amplification and, with a few extra bits of kit, vocals. Not to mention plugging directly into the PA when one is available.
Would avoid actual tubes. They will continue to be more expensive and difficult to acquire.
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Having played many amps in an ostensibly endless search, it's amps in the Princeton family that I have found to have a sound that has range, clarity, warmth and expression depending on how they're played.
The models I'm using are out there on the used market but not made any more.
Princeton Reverb II
Princeton or Princeton Reverb silverface
They're also powerful enough to play up to a medium sized room but small enough to be able to shlepp.
Keepers.
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The OP's requirements are such that a large number of amps satisfy those criteria.
I'd guess that every player has his favorite amp and every player has successfully used a random amp at some point.
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I’’s absolutely fine for guitar (I mentioned this S1 as the best solution earlier in the thread). It has a guitar coloring button that makes it sound more like a guitar amp. I used for a street gig. You could hear it at the end of the block, no problem. It’s loud, and clear, and you can go for 5 hours. Originally Posted by TheGrandWazoo
Plus, they just issued a new and improved S1 that is supposed to be better and even less light. (It’s not heavy in any sense, can go over the shoulder in the bag).
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...except for the Sco / Carlton end of the spectrum. I have yet to find an amp that does the clean, smooth overdrive that gives that tone. My 1st generation Boogie came very close, so it's worth a look at the smaller Boogies - one may do the job for the OP. But only Dumble and a few boutique amps made to emulate a Dumble really get that sound right (e.g. Fuchs, Red Plate, and 2 Rock) . And you can't get any of them for 1300 Euros. Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
There are a few pedals that do it better than almost any amp I've ever played through. So I'd suggest a high quality, clean amp and compatible speaker plus something like a ZenDrive, a Smokin' Amp Zen Clone, or one of the Steel String Singer pedals. For use up to moderate volumes, a Quilter Superblock and a 10" Toob will do everything the OP wants if he adds a pedal for the Carlton thing. The gain & volume controls on the Quilter enable a wide tone palette from clean to crunch, and the limiter adds a bit of sponginess similar to the "sag" from a tube rectifier in a traditional amp.
For a lot more output power, a clean little head like a TC Electronics BAM200 or a DV Mark EG250 works great with the bigger Toobs. And my DV Mark EG250 loves pedals (although I personally don't). Some of the best little class D heads (like the BAM, the Gnome, the Elf etc) do not have Reverb. So you have to be sure it's in the amp you choose if you want it. You can always add a reverb pedal. But the DV Mark reverb in the 250W heads is very nice and seems much better to me than the one in my Jazz 12 or my Little Jazz - and I don't want to have to be bothered with pedals.
The Jazz 12 and Little Jazz sound wonderful. I've had one in my backline for several years, and I recently sold my LJ only because I also have a Blu 6 and didn't need both. But the reverb in these gets spacey above a light effect level, and the 250W heads don't seem to suffer from this.Last edited by nevershouldhavesoldit; 06-22-2023 at 12:18 PM. Reason: typos
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That's interesting about the specific tones. Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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Take a look at a Quilter Mach 3 combo. I got one about four months ago and am floored by the versatility.
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