Question about 7-string nylon guitars

[RJVB]

Well, if you know more than a Brazilian luthier

I invite you to log on to the Delcamp classical guitar forum and look up what Alan Carruth and Mimmo Perrufo have to say about the physical properties of nylon vs. steel strings. The former is a formally trained luthier with a lot of published research on lutherie, the latter one of the very few string makers who engages in ground-breaking scientific research aimed at improving composite string technology.
But basically it is just the same kind of physics that predicts how far sound will travel in a rod of steel and in a rod of nylon (of the same diameter). Which one do you think will transmit sound the best?

[Lionelsax]

I invite you to log on to the Delcamp classical guitar forum and look up what Alan Carruth and Mimmo Perrufo have to say about the physical properties of nylon vs. steel strings. The former is a formally trained luthier with a lot of published research on lutherie, the latter one of the very few string makers who engages in ground-breaking scientific research aimed at improving composite string technology.
But basically it is just the same kind of physics that predicts how far sound will travel in a rod of steel and in a rod of nylon (of the same diameter). Which one do you think will transmit sound the best?

Man, if you at least listened to what they said about Brazilian choro and its history...
Maybe Brazilians are too stupid and should rewrite their story.
It's what I guess you're saying

[Lionelsax]

[Lionelsax]

[RJVB]

In English please!

[Lionelsax]

In English please!

He's saying what I said.
C E A D G steel strings
B E nylon strings
Steel strings cut in a traditional choro ensemble, nylon strings are better for another thing.
Traditional choro is played with a steel string guitar with a thumb pick (B and E are nylon maybe for acoustic reasons).

You can also use nylon strings, nylon strings are better for solo, it resonates too much in and doesn't cut so much in a traditional ensemble (although nylon strings seem to be the norm now).

[Zigracer]

Hi !

I was looking at 7 string nylon guitars and I noticed something about their tuners.

These are two different heads.

First one (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 stand for the string tuners)

4
5 3
6 2
7 1


Second one

7
4 3
5 2
6 1


Which one is the best ?
Have you ever noticed this ?

I wouldn't think one is "best." It seems the order depends on the design of the peg head and location of the tuning machines.

[RJVB]

I wouldn't think one is "best." It seems the order depends on the design of the peg head and location of the tuning machines.

I stand by my answer:

Look at the Costa guitar and ask yourself how often you'd find yourself turning the wrong tuner; the 7th string has a tuner that sits above the one of the D string. That's simply counter-intuitive. But maybe it's how Y wants it - I don't think there's anything making it impossible to put the strings on the tuners you want.

Of course you can get used to everything, but I think you'll continue making errors esp. if you also play normal guitar. Or worse, another 7 stringer of the other headstock design.

I've already changed to string/peg attribution on a violin when I had to salvage string that had become too short to install in the normal location (so probably an A string). And when I started guitar I thought it stupid that the high 3 pegs have to be turned in the other direction than the low 3 to get the same effect, so I reversed the winding direction on the high tuners.
Both times I didn't insist very long; too confusing.