TI/brass plated trebles

[RJVB]

did they all break at the same point ?

Hard to say, harder than say at the nut...

[RJVB]

I cannot help but think that these thicker posts must cause less fatigue, and unless ceramic the white material will probably lose any sharpness at the hole's rim the 1st time you put strings on...



It does seem the strings are installed in a different way.

[pingu]

it’s not difficult to tell where a string broke ....

[RJVB]

Oh sure, I can measure exactly at what distance from both ends it broke. Determining exactly if that corresponds to something on the guitar is a different thing, even if your string doesn't stretch (and goes back towards its original length after breaking).

Just de- and retune an old E string until it snaps, and then try to get the part that remains on the post (or even the long part) taut again to see if the break occurred on the post or just off...

[pingu]

try to get the part that remains on the post (or even the long part) taut again to see if the break occurred on the post or just off...

yes ....
I use some thin nose pliers

[nevershouldhavesoldit]

Hard to say, harder than say at the nut...

But you did say this earlier in post #22, which suggested that you did know exactly where the breakage occurs:

The break was most definitely at the point where the string comes off the roller.

I wasn’t sure which part you called the “roller”. Is it the post on the tuner?

[RJVB]

Sorry, I used a bit of a shortcut indeed. I'm pretty certain it must (can only) be somewhere around the point where the string meets the post but I have no proof. Or used to meet at some point because this usually happens when you're tuning back up so you're dealing with a dynamic situation.

With stretchy nylgut or even stretchier Sugar-based Aquila strings it becomes even harder. I had one of the latter break yesterday, and fortunately I had just redone the mark that I put where the string exits the nut on the tuner side. I left things as they were until this afternoon and by then the string had contracted back to (supposedly) its original length; putting the string along the fretboard the mark now fell halfway between the 4th and 5th fret, or a bit less than 80% of the distance between string holder and the far side of the nut. No wonder you keep tuning those strings for over a week and end up with a crazy amount of wraps on the post (and string tension is noticeably lower than what you'd expect from the announced figure)! Evidently some part of the string that's just on the post also unstretches after breakage, so good luck figuring out exactly where the break occurred.

[DanielleOM]

After using Elixer plain strings for the past year, I just changed a full set of strings and used the brass color plain strings. Even though I am convinced the plain Elixers last much longer, I now think that's there's a difference in tone, slightly less bright, with the brass color plain strings that I like.

What's your strategy for plain strings when using TI Jazz Swing strings? Using the brass color trebles that come with a full set or something else?