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I'm looking to complement the compact, foldable Stagg guitar support with something a little more sturdy and resistant to being topped over. Preferably one that has a brace holding the neck, and that remains reasonably priced (no need for "stage quality").
So far I've seen a Proel (or Proei?) FC720 which seems like a suitable choice but its neck brace is a little surprising.
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02-27-2022 07:41 PM
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Not reasonably priced, but very nice: Solid Ground.
I know you mentioned a neck brace, but these are surprisingly sturdy, and made for stage use. I have the ABS composite model -- inexpensive and rock solid.
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I have one of these, and it's surprisingly sturdy. Duro - Pro (Black,Red,Blue) – Cooperstand Pro Instruments Stands It's light enough to move when hit instead of falling over. I like it better than the bigger ones I have with neck supports. They tend to be more top-heavy, and IME fall over easier than the CooperStand. I am careful about placing the guitar on it, because it's easy to let the guitar sit at an angle instead of vertical, and the lips in the front of the base aren't very high, so it's possible to not actually catch the edge of the guitar rim, but if the guitar is carefully placed, I find it more stable than any other stand I've tried,, and I have several in the closet. The CooperStand is what stays out ready for use in my music room.
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I have one of these (in wood) for my dreadnought. It has the added advantage, when folded, of fitting in the case under the headstock.
Originally Posted by sgosnell
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Those Cooper stands look interesting ... but would they hold the instrument in cat-proof fashion (I have 3)
EDIT: sliding with the instrument is a nice idea, but wouldn't that have and adverse effect if you have an uneven floor and the support catches on something?
What's up with this warning that I've seen for several stands?
Not suitable for long-term use with instruments with nitrocellulose lacquer.
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That warning is about the pads, of whatever composition, affecting the finish if they stay in contact too long. I think it's mostly a CYA thing to prevent lawsuits. Most modern composite materials won't affect nitorcellulose, but some can. If the stand hits a floor area that prevents moving, it stops. It's very much like a stand that won't move at all when that happens. IME the CooperStand is the most stable I've tried, but I certainly haven't tried every stand available. It's always possible there is something better available, I just haven't found it yet. I'm not really looking though.
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That's what I thought (hoped) about the warning. The DeOro supports I use have a similar warning about the suction cups. Mine are on continuously, esp. now that I have cases that allow that too, and what traces there are can still be wiped off. Besides, they're in places where you expect some wear of the finish so I don't really care.
I bet. The question is, what will the guitar do when that happens. Is it held sufficiently well and is the support sufficiently stable to absorb the inertia. Originally Posted by sgosnell
I know, you can always knock things over if you want - I'm just thinking of my cats who probably don't and never have yet (but...). That's why I was thinking about some extra security from a neck brace.
That birch plywood stand *is* nice, though. The big wooden one even more so, but way out of budget. If I were a little more handy and experienced with wood working I'd make something out of all the wood from our terrain - plenty of old sumac and robinia branches which would make for something nicely decorative.
(I did make my own footstool with a log of sumac, a chain saw and some old car wax
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BTW, this is the Proel support I mentioned:
This the stand I already have
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IME the neck brace offers less security, unless there is a strap or something there to hold the neck in place. I've seen guitars struck from the rear which fell forward because the guitar was too vertical. The guitar needs to lean back at a rather large angle to prevent that. The neck brace really only helps with bumps from the sides, and with a properly designed base that isn't necessary. Yes, a guitar can be knocked over while on any stand, and they are, all too often. I've accidentally hit my guitars many times while on the CooperStand and they have stayed stable. I prefer having them on the wall, but that isn't always convenient. In the end, it's your guitar, so buy whatever you feel safest with. We won't take responsibility for any damage.
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Agreed on the strap - but the one I've been looking at has its opening on the side. Originally Posted by sgosnell
Agreed also about hanging on the wall; the only appropriate position I have for that already has a guitar. I could put a 2nd one but the support would be about 3m high, above a filing cabinet
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I have two cats and I have found that the only safe space for my guitars if they are not in my hands, is inside a hard shell case.
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I think it is cruel to keep your cats in a hard shell case. Not to mention the wear and tear on the case. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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When I am playing, I have to keep the guitar case closed, otherwise a cat will soon be nesting inside. It seems they think of my guitar cases as a box. Originally Posted by pcjazz
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And that's why some of us are dog people...
Which, as the owner of a 90 pound dog, I suscribe for the guitar-in-case template when not in use.
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It's not what you asked for, but these are really super functional, secure and lightweight.
I've been using them for years - and I've only bought them again if one got left behind on a gig.
I don't think something with a neck brace is any better.
K&M Heli 2: Amazon.com
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Hercules
Bought a few off Craigslist and they're great, I ditched all of my old stands and didn't look back.
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Thanks! I'd seen one of their smaller models with neck brace but wasn't sure. Looked a bit further now and think I'll order a GS415B which inspires confidence. Originally Posted by wintermoon
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those are the ones I have, if I see them pop up on CL I just buy them, got a bunch for $20 each, like new. Originally Posted by RJVB
just be careful w/ your hand at the top where it closes around the neck, you can get a nasty pinch hanging a heavy guitar in it. keep your hand away from it.
ask me how I know....
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OK, how - oh wait, that was a rhetorical question? Originally Posted by wintermoon
ask me how I know....
I usually hold my instruments around the neck joint where it's a bit easier not to pinch the strings so I should be fine, but thanks
One reason I wanted a support with something like a neck brace is that I want to be able to pick up and displace stand + guitar.
BTW: my cats also love my gig bags, so much so that I gave them the "old" Gretsch bag of my reso. They won't go inside that one though.
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You might want to try this https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...g-guitar-stand but i agree with the sentiment that the case is the only safe place.
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Didn’t we just have a long thread about how putting guitars in cases leads to finish discoloration, binding rot and the decline of western civilization? Originally Posted by nyc chaz
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Fun story although off topic here. About 11 years ago I bought a brand new Gibson Custom Shop 330L which of course came with a really, really nice hard case. One of the first things that happened was that my cat named Loop (who was just a tiny kitten then) peed in the case when I wasn't looking. What's worse was that I didn't notice that had happened until after I took the guitar out of the case again the next day. I thought "why does the back of my guitar smell funny?". Yikes! I kind of freaked out and called my luthier who recommended repeated light scrubbing alternating back and forth between Meguiars car wax and naphtha. Happily the guitar came out fine. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
The case on the other hand didn't make it although that was probably my fault more than anything. There are a lot of cleaning products that will get the pee smell out of fabrics and whatnot but I was impatient with how long it was taking to get results. A word of advice to all; do not put a plywood guitar case in the shower to clean it out! Who would have thought that they use water soluble glue on those things? I learned this the hard way.
I'd like to get a replacement Gibson Custom Shop hardshell case but I don't see them for sale anywhere and Gibson didn't reply to my emails about it.
Does anyone know what the story is about that?
Takeaway lessons to learn from my mistakes. Don't leave your guitar cases open if you have pets, it is possible to save a nitro guitar that has been peed on, and plywood cases will fall apart I they get too wet.
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I have a few of these. Nothing fancy, but well designed and very stable.
Ultimate Support GS-100+ Guitar Stand with Locking Legs | Sweetwater
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Thanks, but I already ordered and received the abovementioned Hercules stand. Originally Posted by Jonathan0996
I take it a bit of play in the mechanism is normal?
I still also use my older lightweight stand though (with the left side up, usually
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Hi SS, Originally Posted by Stringswinger
The only time I use stands is in the safety of my home. However, no cats or dogs. I always put my guitar back into its case on gigs since there is a great temptation for someone in the audience to pick it up without permission and start playing. This happened to our guitarist(Les Paul guitar) in a big show club during intermission which resulted in a broken guitar neck and a broken nose for the uninvited guitarist. And, believe it or not, on a solo Classical gig in an upscale restaurant, a guy opened my case on the floor, also during intermission, and pulled out a pick and started playing cowboy chords. Fortunately, the owner intervened immediately and quickly resolved the problem. Only sacrificial guitars should be used on stands.
Marinero
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Yes, some play is normal Originally Posted by RJVB
Thanks, but I already ordered and received the abovementioned Hercules stand.
I take it a bit of play in the mechanism is normal?
I still also use my older lightweight stand though (with the left side up, usually)
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