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Right or left, we do like our low taxes in Nevada. It still sucks. Land is expensive here. Auto insurance. It's still a good bang for the buck for now if you don't mind gravel.
Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Quit bitching and move.
I watch a lot of 'why I'm leaving California' videos. Grow a pair. Stay or go.
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03-30-2021 06:07 PM
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Stevebol, you've set an all time "I'm gonna move outta here" record for posts in a forum.
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Yea the problem with the coasts are the music jazz and classical, sports, arts, museums, activities. Terrible. Just disgusting lol. Let’s see... Kennedy Center, Philly Verizon Hall, Lincoln Center, Alice Tully Hall, City Center, Town Hall. (All pre and we pray post Covid of course)
Crowds, yes. Diversity, yes. But energy, interesting people and no corn fields. And roads that aren’t all flat and 90 degree turns. Did I say no corn fields?
Wineries in Nj, Md, and Va. good ones!
in my case, very simple. Now I’m less than an hour from the Johns Hopkins National Vasculitis Research Center, and 30 minutes to the NIH. They both think I’m “a more than interesting Zebra”. Dr Jeff that should make sense, right?
I feel very good about that.
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Wintermoon i did it im outta jersey baby!!!
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good on ya JK, the property taxes are outrageous! Originally Posted by jazzkritter
a friend lives in Delaware on 2 acres, his property taxes are under 3K and no state sales tax.
sounds like a pretty sweet deal.
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Where I live, it's 8.25% sales tax, plus a high property tax. Since there is no income tax, the revenue has to come from somewhere, so the state relies on other regressive taxes. Pretty much everything imaginable is taxed in lieu of income. Even if you don't own property, you're paying property taxes, since the landlords just pass it on the the tenants as increased rent. Civilization relies on taxes, and they are inevitable, wherever they come from or how they are levied.
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Originally Posted by fep
I would suggest better sources on tax information. The Oregon state income tax is 9% starting at a quite low $17K. Not the 4% underlying your post. Ranked #38, where 50 is the worst, by the Tax Foundation. Not as bad as California's #49 ranking. Your site also fails to mention that homeowners in Texas stop paying property taxes at age 65. Making it one of the lowest tax rates in the nation for aging jazz enthusiasts. Well.. we could learn country swing I suppose.
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Had to move to Oregon for some key health policies (not 420 which I am uninterested in). Not that having a house on the Rogue River sucks (I'm heading out to put on my waders as soon as I finish this post). However the politics controlled by a couple of big cities (well, what's left of them after last summer anyway) and the taxes that go with have not been positives.
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No, you do not stop paying property taxes in Texas when you're 65. You can get a partial exemption up to #100,000, but you still pay property taxes. You can delay paying the taxes, but eventually they will be due. Texas is not a property-owner's paradise.
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I lived in Oregon for 12 years (1987-1999) and found the cost of living so cheap in those days that the high tax rates were not a bother. But that was before the politics made things as screwed up there as they are today. Originally Posted by Spook410
I moved back to California 22 years ago and am pretty well set (so long as Prop 13 is not discarded), but my wife has a property up in Montana (she grew up there) and that may become home up the road.
It is still the America I grew up in, up there in Montana, here in California, not so much.
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^^^
You live in California, dude. You'll be California dreaming if you leave.
You could move to a soul-sucking gambling mecca. You'll miss the weather and like the traffic situation a lot more.
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I have left California twice but moved back. Maybe the third time will be the charm. Maybe I'll just stay here. Hiking in the redwoods is good for my soul. Originally Posted by Stevebol
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Hey I lived in the DC area in the 90’s—Prince George’s County to be exact. The local school was horrible, so we sent our daughter to school in Alexandria at a huge cost and long commute, cause that’s what good parents do. Had to worry about carjacking and mugging all the time we lived there. Originally Posted by jazzkritter
Of course I got to go to meetings with all the NIH docs including Fauci on a regular basis. Great restaurants. Kennedy Center. All the museums.
So it’s a trade off. I have explored jobs recently in Denver and Minneapolis, but have no interest in moving back to a big city—love to visit of course.
I was keen on moving back to Chattanooga, TN, or Nashville for quite a long time, but no jobs available. That’s the conundrum...sometimes the good jobs aren’t in the “great” location.
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Have you been to Montana lately? (We have family there.) You’d be surprised who’s moving in these days. A lot of CA license plates... Originally Posted by Stringswinger
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I am hoping all those California transplants don't screw it up too bad before I get there. Otherwise I may have to consider Wyoming. Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
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At 65 they add $10K to the $25K homestead exemption. And they cap school valuations. And the county and school district where I lived reduce their rate for those over 65. You're right.. it's not zero. Oops. Took 'cut to nothing' literally. However my reference had a reduction over 35%. But given there is no state income tax, what you pay in taxes will be a lot less than most states. Certainly less than the property tax rate I pay in Oregon on top of the state income tax. Originally Posted by sgosnell
Texas is a good place to live. That's why they're concerned with the impact of the California exodus.Last edited by Spook410; 03-30-2021 at 11:15 PM.
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I don't think most Californians have a clue as to how many Californians are already here. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Vegas was finished when the Raiders came here. Everyone expected housing to go up but it's going to be a hell hole.
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Try being invaded by Raider Nation. Cocktail waitresses have someone to talk to now. Don't look at me. Originally Posted by Stringswinger
I'm Hater Nation.
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The thing is, on Social Security we pay no income tax, but the property tax is always there. An income tax is more equitable, but that ain't gonna happen here anytime soon. The lege is too busy restricting voting and abortions to bother with fixing taxes. And the next item on the agenda is permitless open or concealed carry.
Oh, and the horrible thought of trans kids playing sports. That's an emergency item.
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You could have moved northward one state to Washington where there’s no state tax. But we aren’t allowed to have fully automatic weapons like Oregon, so there’s that. Originally Posted by Spook410
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A google search turned up a report from an LA station that population growth, which had never decreased before in California did turn down by a small percentage.
That's CA as a whole. San Francisco had steeper negative growth. I'll venture a guess that it reflects to some significant degree a lesson learned from Covid, i.e. that many information workers can work effectively at home. That fact, combined with sky high rents and housing prices, and a certain unpleasantness on city streets, probably makes for an exodus.
I know one person who hated the poor air quality due to huge fires and abruptly moved to NY state.
Meanwhile, housing prices here in the East Bay are going up. Some reports suggest dramatic increases -- but I didn't check veracity. Same thing has been happening in communities on the outskirts of NYC.
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Lots of migration in to here. A local news wit calls Phoenix a Zoom city. So many move here now freed going to an office there is a major real estate shortage. We get wanna-sell-your-house calls a couple of times a week. Could make a nice profit but where would we go? And with 30 years invested into her garden we’re staying. Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
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I've been getting unsolicited calls asking me to sell my house, right here in the Bay Area. One guess is that prices are less stable now so that the middlemen see opportunity. Originally Posted by TedBPhx
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San Diego is growing but population growth has slowed down. San Diego Population Growth Is Slowing | GlobeSt
For many of us that bought a house 30 years ago, that alone has given us a bunch of wealth. Buy a $200,000 home in 1990 in most anywhere near the coast (within 5 miles or so) and you're now sitting on a house worth around a million dollars. Many are cash poor but asset rich. You can't spend it unless you sale (or refinance I suppose). One can sale, move inland, like Arizona, buy a nicer home, and live on that windfall plus social security through retirement. I think that's a big reason many are leaving.New births in San Diego are falling at a similar pace to the slowed population growth. “In 2018, 12,700 babies were born in San Diego County compared to the 20-year average of over 14,700 births per year,” Campion says. “Reduced natural increase (the excess of birth over death) is a result of millennials choosing to delay family formation and having fewer children in general. Some list economics and the cost of raising a child as a reason, some choose to focus on their careers and some want more leisure time and personal freedom among other reasons.”
This trend in San Diego is actually a trend throughout the nation and the globe, and it is keeping population rates from stalled to slow growth. “In short, lower fertility rates will keep overall population growth in check—consistent with national and global trend
It isn’t all about the birthrate, however. San Diego, like much of Southern California is also seeing negative net migration. “San Diego has also been affected by overall negative net migration, which a main reason has been housing affordability,” says Campion. “With an increased amount of housing supply, which the county is moving toward, we would anticipate for things to improve in this area.”
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I get the "sell us your house at half the market price" all the time, mostly text messages but also voice calls. People have been watching way too much H&G TV, and think that flipping houses is a lucrative occupation. It might be, but I'm not selling unless offered way above market. I would have to find another home, and pay for the move. Not gonna happen, GI.
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