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I really like this one. A small hollow thin line and humbuckers with a variable tone switch. It has some bracing under the top to anchor the bridge and pickups but no center block. $1000 Canadian.
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03-20-2021 09:04 PM
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Cool
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Totally Hollow like an ES-330 Gibson ? Interesting how they are competing with that Hipster market trend like Collings.
I like the new Eastman Romeo laminate with a trem in blue as well.
Listed on their website available Summer 2021
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interesting how can it be hollow without
a trapese tailpiece Jim ?
wouldn’t it just want to rip off its tailpiece ?
maybe it’s constructed like a flat-top acoustic or something ?
cool tho
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It has a trapeze tailpiece. At least in the video, that one does.
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It has a trapeze tail piece . Also full hollow bodies can have bigsbys and Tom bridges with the tone bar for support
Originally Posted by pingu
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Very cool guitar. Nice snappy sound. I'd play one of these.
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A little like a Casino (330). I had one Ibanez made a while ago, thin, full hollow, Bigsby. I put a trapeze on it and a floating archtop bridge. It's got the vibe of a full hollow in a small thinline feel. I love that guitar.
I made it from junker parts when I worked at Ibanez (Hoshino) and it turned out to be one of my favourite guitars. Thinline hollow is such a great combo, I'm sorry there's not more out there in this niche.
Come to think of it, D'Angelico made a thinline hollow single cutaway a while back. Another guitar with a small body, big sound. Very short lived in their lineup. I guess people don't want guitars like that.
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They explain the construction in this video from Andertons. It has braces (I assume hardwood) glued under the bridge and pickups that act as anchors for the screws. My Turkish guitar works the same way and it's very stable. I love the size of this guitar. Originally Posted by pingu
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Do you remember what the model designation was of that D'Angelico? I tried one at a store a few years ago and liked it. Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
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Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
Jim, I've sold that guitar but I have the records in the shop, I'll get back if nobody else does. It was a blue grey finish, very handsome instrument. It was a laminate top with a small wood block glued to the top that didn't contact the back- fully suspended, so there was plenty of mass there to resist the torque and anchor the threaded posts directly to the top. The top was truly free vibrating yet controlled in amplified situations. Kind of a brilliant hybrid IMHO. Originally Posted by pingu
It was always a mystery to me why these guitars were only offered for a couple of years. My only conclusion is those people who really loved it, players who played jazz a lot and appreciated the nuance and subtlety of the vibrating top, already had full hollows and didn't need another guitar. And those who didn't know enough about their own playing to "get it" were heavily indoctrinated into the "three types of guitar" world; it wasn't as sexy as a heavily hyped semi or an L-5 they strove to someday own. Hybrid instruments like that can be very special instruments, but they're not the heavy sellers that earn their right in a guitar company's lineup through instant high $$ influx. Scofield is a salesman for all traditional semis, Benson is a salesman for all hollows if you get my drift. That's why Ibanez took them into their family.
We'll see how Ibanez does with this model. I have if feeling it'll be gone in a couple of years... unless they get a big name artist to carry the market cache for them.
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I did a similar thing with a model Sweetwater was selling - an AF-75T with a Bigsby-type tailpiece which I promptly discarded and replace with a generic trapeze TP I had lying around. Venetian cutaway, "Tourquoise" finish, definitely blue in the pix, surf green IRL. I loved that guitar. Light, balanced, nice volute, very comfortable to play, great sound - I gigged with it happily for a couple of years. Eventually I was going to donate it and an Epiphone Chet Atkins to the local high school, but my youngest granddaughter (acting as go-between) fell in love with it and still has it (still on the Dean's list working toward her Master's). So the school got the Chet Atkins, and the Green Guitar (as it is known) stayed in the family. It is the way of our people. Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
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That hipster market trend Collings I30 costs $5500 and up. I think I will stick with the Ibanez. Originally Posted by jads57
I have a Seventy-seven Guitars Exrubato Hollow and Exrubato Jazz with humbuckers that I bought back in 2011/2012. That hipster trend began before Collings put out its I30.
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eastman makes a reasonably priced 330 style guitar too...
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Looks good, sounds good and a little more affordable and available probably than the Eastmans.
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someone is selling one of the eastmans on the forum currently. Originally Posted by dmorash
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I like that hipster trend though... There are some higher end Japanese alternatives by King Snake and Archtop Tribute. Epiphone is releasing a USA Casino, with Heritage selling its own copy at about $3k. Interesting move on Ibanez's part, including the nicer headstock, I hope they release a 16" version too.
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I understand the top is Linden/Basswood Jim ( may be wrong ) like many current Artcores. As a former builder, does this bother you? Not the best tonewood perhaps/dents easily etc. Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
David
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Top, sides and back and no, it doesn't bother me a bit. Basswood is terribly under rated as a tone wood, mostly because it's not very pretty visually, but tonally it's very even and while it's softer than ash or maple, it's more than hard enough when its under a quality finish. It's been used in some much more expensive guitars than these for many years by several well know and respected builders. Ernie Ball/Music Man has a very informative page on their site about why they use basswood and it's worth reading. Originally Posted by blackcat
Why We Use Basswood For Our Instruments – Ernie Ball Music ManLast edited by Jim Soloway; 03-23-2021 at 07:37 PM.
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But they do say that: 'Basswood is a very full-bodied sounding tonewood, and it especially makes sense for us to utilize it when adding elements like maple tops to give the instrument the overall package for more cut and brightness. Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
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I'm not going to try to talk you out of something about which you've clearly made a decision but I am going to suggest that you watch this video. The tone is absolutely glorious from a guitar that's going to retail for $700 US. Originally Posted by blackcat
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Parker Fly guitar uses Basswood for it's necks with carbon strips on top to reinforce stability of its soft nature.
Ken Parker said he was copying mid evil period flutes with soft woods encased with Ebony or harder woods for strength.
I do think Collings makes wonderfully expensive instruments A+ ALL the way!
That said they definitely have the Hip Younger artists playing them. Maybe they have endorsement deals to afford them?
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Jim,
Don't worry, it is highly likely that I will buy one ( and that is before watching this particular video - I have watched the Anderton's and Ibanez ones so far ) will you? My only concern is that buying online I may have a bad experience like the appalling ( only word to describe it ) example of an AS153 that a large French site sent me earlier this year. It bore no relation to the fit and finish of my 700€ AFJ95 which as a former associate/distributor of Peerless and Fibonacci ( design input ) I would say is up there with the best of them. So far, Thomann.fr and .de are saying 'Available in some months'. Hope to find one in a store locally which is how I grabbed my Eastman. Thanks for your valued input.
Still liking your Little Jazz?
David
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The Little Jazz stayed in Mexico when we moved back to Canada. It was just too expensive to ship any amplifiers. Originally Posted by blackcat
As for this guitar, they're not available yet but I'm certainly considering it. It checks a lot of boxes for me, especially the size and hollow body. I wish there wasn't quite such a markup in the price in Canada but such is the cost of living in a smaller market spread across a lot of geography.
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seen this ?
https://www.ibanez.com/eu/products/detail/am93me_5b_04.html
pretty huh ?
hopefully it’s also 330 style hollow
annoyingly ibanez don’t say .... again !
but they never seem to give this crucial detail !
.... well it’s kinda crucial to us jazz players anyway
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