View Poll Results: state your VISUAL PREFERENCE
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I prefer the Gibson LeGrand
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I prefer the Heritage Golden Eagle
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I cannot decide
10 16.67%
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Either one would do me just fine. But I am with SS on this one, I just prefer the woods on the Gibson.
What a beautiful guitar.
JD
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02-13-2021 09:13 PM
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are the f-holes on the heritage really that much larger than the gibson..or is that some camera angle trickery?
if so i'd think there would be major differences in acoustic tone
my vote would be to combine the best aspects of both guitars into one!
mr. campellone??
hah
cheers
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Originally Posted by neatomic
The size difference is even more apparent when comparing the f-holes on the Gibson ES-175 and L-4C/CES to those on The Heritage H-575 and Sweet 16. Those Gibsons have perfect-sized f-holes as opposed to the egregiously Brobdingnagian f-holes on the H-575 and Sweet 16.Last edited by Hammertone; 02-14-2021 at 02:36 PM.
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- “Brobdingdanian F-holes” Wouldn’t you like to see that on a guitar spec sheet!
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Originally Posted by Bobbyjr
Long ago i noticed that i got irritated by strange sounding overtones produced by the tailpiece when playing acoustically. These unpleasant sounds largely disappear when attaching a piece of velcro over the strings in the area between bridge and tailpiece.
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Originally Posted by neatomic
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Originally Posted by JazzNote
Its not about a competition....its about making music and experiencing the great alternatives these builders have provided.
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Headstock is the clincher for me, i will take the gibson.
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Love a new word to use....thank you Hammertone!
I just looked it up and its "Brobdingnagian" unless you're Canadian.
And my beloved post-war L-7's have borderline Brobdingnagian f-holes.
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Originally Posted by zizala
The Johnny Smith f-holes were a new design for Gibson, and have only ever been used on the JS, Citation, Kalamazoo Award and Legrand models, AFAIK (any others?). I don't see the design of the L-5/L-7 f-holes as overly large by comparison, just less elegant. Your post-war L-7 f-holes should be the same as those on almost all 17" Gibson archtop f-holes from @'38 forward.
The most appropriate comparison is really between the Gibson Kalamazoo Award and the Heritage Golden Eagle. since the Golden Eagle is based not on the L-5 but on the Kalamazoo Award, and copies most of that model's features:
-similar eagle & branch inlay idea on headstock, but a variation on the original style;
-same trc material but ...;
-same scale;
-same neck construction (5-piece maple w/mahogany strips, ebony board, 20 frets);
-same body dimensions (Rim Depth - 3”+/-* | Body Width - 17” | Body Length - 20 1/4”);
-similar tailpiece, but a variation on original style;
-wood pickguard w/floating pickup attached to it (the GE guard shown is a replacement that is better-looking than the original);
-ebony bridge w/inlaid base;
-same JS f-hole design but ... wider, with some wider than others.
Differences:
-cloud inlays and cupid's bow on fretboard instead of K'zoo blocks and end;
-MOP instead of abalone for inlays
-something about the headstock...
*Kalamazoo Award literature says 3 1/8" rims, but for sale ads typically say 3"Last edited by Hammertone; 02-16-2021 at 04:44 AM.
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Both are beauties, but if I had my choice, I'd go LeGrand.
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I'd be honoured to play either.
From a purely visual design stand-point the Gibson wins easily for my tastes. As mentioned before: headstock, f holes, woods, but also giant 'H' tailpiece and slightly gaudy headstock inlay. Actually, I'd like the Gibson even more if it didn't have the diamond 'Custom' inlay in the head. The ol' flower pot is sweeter. I also prefer the look of the tulips over imperials.
And to my eyes anyway, Gibson is a better designed logotype than 'The Heritage'. Now that I've typed it, it seems a bit awkward. Is 'The Heritage' even grammatically correct?
It's just personal taste. I also prefer herringbone to hounds-tooth.
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By far The Heritage.
It has the pretiiest headstock in the world, period.
Now if you want to start a discussion on f-holes size, it's up to you, but The Heritage wins again !
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Congratulations on owning these two fine instruments.
The inlays got me and made me go with the Gibson. For me, they are very close aeshetically.
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Originally Posted by 339 in june
The Heritage headstock gets you pulled aside in a security scan for possessing a dangerous weapon sharp enough to put one's eyes out. TSA won't let you take it onboard. Your bass player gets nervous, your drummer feels the negative jibes, the sax player worries if you are going to ram it up his ass while he takes a solo. It is just bad juju all round.
Jazz is as much about style as it is about the music. You don't show up at a jazz gig wearing sweats. Do you think The Heritage goes well with your Brioni? The Italians would be offended.
No true Italian would be seen playing The Heritage. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
This may become dangerous - Italians are known to be hot tempered and he's been a boxer before becoming a jazz guitar player ;-)
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It's not sarcasm.
I'm really convinced Heritage headstocks are beautiful and the fruit of good engineering (nice, simple and efficient)
And I'm not an Italian.
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Originally Posted by JazzNote
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Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
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Both! The wooden bridge would be a better fit for LG also. Heritage has more of punch in my opinion, like sort of an L5. Legrand is more sensitive, more like D'Angelico.
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Originally Posted by Epistrophy
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Originally Posted by JazzNote
Last edited by Epistrophy; 03-13-2021 at 07:16 AM.
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What was a huge improvement in Both Johnny Smith and Golden Eagle was to put a tone control under the pickguard, I decided to keep the original black floating pickup in my Golden Eagle. I usually have the tone control wide open to cut it through the mix, no matter the type of guitar I play. With an amp I soften the sound and sometimes I don't use treble at all.
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Those are beautiful Jazz guitar photographs JazzNote! Well done!
KA PAF info please
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