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    I would like to add a TINY amount of drive to my LJ. A clean boost pushing the front end is not getting me where I had hoped and I assume this is because the amp is solid state.

    Any suggestions.

    Thanks.

    P.S. I have humbucker and P90 pickups in my guitars.

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    I went through a lot of overdrive pedals before finding the Fulltone OCD. It does a great job of preserving the overall tone of your guitar while adding anything from clean boost (with the drive knob turned way down) to very significant amounts of extremely creamy distortion. Picking dynamics come through better than any other distortion pedal I’ve tried. I put it in front of my DV Mark LJ and it did a nice job with my Les Paul. I don’t recall trying it with my archtop but expect it would sound great. It’s one of those pedals that doesn’t seem to have a bad setting in it.

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    Thanks for the response. It is especially appreciated that you are commenting about using the pedal specifically with a LJ amp.

    My guitars are an Epi ES339 and and an Epi Casino COUPE ...in case that is helpful information for anyone.

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    Tech 21 blonde. You'll love it.

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    What is your price ceiling? Always a concern when making recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    What is your price ceiling? Always a concern when making recommendations.
    $200.00 USD would be the max.

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    Consider maybe the Wampler Tumnus. I tried one in front of my ToneMaster Deluxe not long ago, with the TMDR set totally clean and it gave a very satisfactory overdrive without going into creamy distortion.
    At a higher price the Lovepedal Hermida Zendrive is a great piece of kit.
    Final suggestion would be the ever popular RAT

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    The Fulltone OCD's are cool but you also might want to check out the Blue Note by J Rockett Pedals.

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    I have a Henriksen Bud, a very clean amp.

    I have a Joyo American Sound (about US$40) that I use at low settings to make the amp sound very similar to a Fender Deluxe, with just a little "hair" on the sound. The Joyo American Sound is said to be a copy of the Tech21 Blonde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dconeill
    I have a Henriksen Bud, a very clean amp.

    I have a Joyo American Sound (about US$40) that I use at low settings to make the amp sound very similar to a Fender Deluxe, with just a little "hair" on the sound. The Joyo American Sound is said to be a copy of the Tech21 Blonde.
    Interesting...

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    Joyo American is supposed to be an exact clone of Tech 21 American sound for the quarter (or fifth?) of the price. I don't know much about the ethical or legal issues surrounding their business model.

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    Get the real thing. Joyo picks up radio.

    although the Tech 21 compresses more

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    I like the Boss GE10. It's sold as an equalizer, but it works well for boost also. I also have the Joyo pedal, but I like the sound of the Boss more. I'm not a huge fan of the Fender sound, so maybe that's why. I've also never had the Joyo pick up any radio signals, and it's not significantly noisier than any other pedal I've tried.

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    I have both. You could throw the Tech 21 down a flight of stairs and its be fine. The Joyo...maybe wear soft soled shoes?

    They sound alike though.

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    I haven't thrown the Joyo down any stairs (no stairs in my house) but it does seem about as robust as the other pedals I've used. I do have to say that the sample size is small, though. And I've never seen the Tech21 pedal. The Boss EQ10 I have is probably near 30 years old, and I don't think it's possible to break it easily. The sliders can be bent, but otherwise I think it could be thrown down concrete stairs with no other serious damage. It's a tank.

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    Many thanks for all the responses.

    I presently have the MXR EQ pedal and the MXR clean boost pictured and have not had any success getting a (slightly) "driven" sound with them.



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    Re Tech 21. OP is looking for a drive pedal in front of a DV Mark. I though Tech 21 is meant for direct to mixer or recording interface type of deal. Does it also work as a normal pedal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greco
    Many thanks for all the responses.

    I presently have the MXR EQ pedal and the MXR clean boost pictured and have not had any success getting a (slightly) "driven" sound with them.



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    These won't give you driven sound from a solid state amp.
    They will help you shape any drive pedal though.

    Guitar -> EQ -> Boost -> Drive -> Amp. I put boost after EQ as MXR 6 eq (I also have one) doesn't have volume control. You can experiment with different EQ settings as well as pre gain levels (with boost). Keeping the gain level on the pedal low but input gain from the boost high vs input gain low, drive gain high would give you different responses. You can also put EQ after the gain pedal.

    With different setting you can control picking dynamics and compression levels of the drive pedal with the input gain vs pedal gain relationship. Also you can get fat or cutting tones based on the EQ.

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    Another option is TC Electronic Mojomojo: warm Kenny Burrellesque drive.

    To expand your options greatly for $250: Tech 21 Fly Rig 5 v2 (adds reverb, delay, tuner and plexi drive stage) which can go into the mixer directly. v1 is cheaper of course and is only slightly less versatile.

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    If you're looking overdrive distortion from the Little Jazz, good luck. It won't do that. But it will faithfully amplify what you put into it. That requires a distortion pedal, not a boost pedal. Boost only makes the input to the amp higher. The Joyo will give some distortion, but I don't like the sound at all. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tal_175
    These won't give you driven sound from a solid state amp.
    They will help you shape any drive pedal though.

    Guitar -> EQ -> Boost -> Drive -> Amp. I put boost after EQ as MXR 6 eq (I also have one) doesn't have volume control. You can experiment with different EQ settings as well as pre gain levels (with boost). Keeping the gain level on the pedal low but input gain from the boost high vs input gain low, drive gain high would give you different responses. You can also put EQ after the gain pedal.

    With different setting you can control picking dynamics and compression levels of the drive pedal with the input gain vs pedal gain relationship. Also you can get fat or cutting tones based on the EQ.
    What "drive" pedal do you personally like / suggest?

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    I use a Boss ME80. It has various ways to get some grit into your tone. Preamp models and various distortion options.

    They're built like tanks. A used ME80 (or the 70 or 50 models) would be in range of your budget. New, apparently about $250. Add $20 or so for the power supply, which is not included.

    It's way more than you need, but the major disadvantage of that is the size of it to cart around.

    OTOH, it has a lot of capability and I think the reverb works really well with the LJ. (I use both together, 9 o'clock on LJ about 23 on the ME80).
    Last edited by rpjazzguitar; 04-21-2020 at 08:04 PM.

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    My current choice for just a little extra past clean boost is the Greer Lightspeed.

    This may or may not be relevant: I just traded into a DV Mark Micro 50 CMT head. Was trying this head out with different cabs, through a small pedalboard with a Tim pedal (always on clean boost) with the Greer LS after it. The Lightspeed sounded just as good with this little DV Mark head as it does with any other amp I have. A very open sound, not boxy or overly compressed. No loss of bass. A little on the bright side, with a very effective tone knob that lets you dial that back. I've tried many good low gain drives in this role ... so far the lightspeed is my favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greco
    What "drive" pedal do you personally like / suggest?
    I have a bunch of tubescreamers and klon clones. I think drive choice depends on the amp. I like blackface amps so to me tubescreamer (or klon) is a good choice. I use tubescreamers as the missing mid knob on Princetons and Deluxe Reverbs. Without a TS I keep bass and treble very very low. With TS I can turn up bass and treble and adjust the amount of mids/fatness more freely. I also have tweed amp but I don't like TS with it.

    Lately my favorite set up is Spark booster (in fat mode) -> TS -> Princeton. TS gain low. Spark gives fatness to TS but also puts it in the verge of break up mode. Keeping the gain low on TS gives it a more natural sound. Gain is adjusted by the booster, volume on guitar and picking.

    For a SS amp I don't know if TS is the best choice. Probably stand-alone modeling pedals like Tech 21 are better as SS amps are good at being clean PA platforms.

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    I don't know if the Xotic Super Sweet is what you want, but it has piqued my interest.

    Super Clean Buffer // Super Sweet Booster - Xotic California