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Thanks for kick-starting this entire thread, Lawson. I started a thread today - trying to choose between the Twin and the Deluxe versions. I know either would be good, but the Twin's attenuator clinches it for me.
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10-11-2021 12:21 PM
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The Deluxe has the attenuator as well. The back-panel "extras" are common to them all. XLR out with 3 models, line out level knob, attenuator. Perfectly chosen additions, IMHO.
Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
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Hmm…
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You can really make the decision just like you would in "real (tube) life." Go for the tone you want. The 6V6 tone of the Deluxe, or the 6L6 tone of the Twin. The twin is great for clean headroom and moving lots of air. Funny, but even on the lowest 2 levels of the attenuator, I think those two 12" speakers still add a wonderful dimension or depth to the tone. Quiet, but BIG. Kind of like a giant whispering... Love the Twin here. It's becoming my go-to for everything. Great for recording, quiet for practicing, and if I ever play "out" it can handle any size room. What's not to like!
Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
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I've just paid for the Twin!
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Ummm. A *third* nose? Sorry for the late response by a couple of years...
Originally Posted by wzpgsr
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If I don’t need two noses, I definitely don’t need three.
Originally Posted by Cunamara
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I’ve just been delivered my new twin tone master: played for only one hour but already very happy with it.
very natural tone;
seems the real twin to me (had it years ago).
fantastic match with my ibanez “johnny smith”…
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I keep reminding myself I already have 6 good tube amps including an early 70s black faced Twin and a Deluxe black face custom build and a reasonably priced good tech.
Otherwise I’d be after one of these.
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You say that like you think it's enough......
Originally Posted by 73Fender
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The TM Super Reverb really has my interest. The single best sounding amp I ever played was a Super Reverb, and to get one that's 36 pounds.....
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The Deluxe Reverb is noticeably lighter weight than the Twin (increasingly important as I get older), but the Twin is larger with the two speakers. I was able to heft them both side by side at Guitar Center before making my decision. I bought the black Deluxe Reverb used (but mint with the footswitch) at one of our local Music-Go-Round shops.
I swapped out the speaker for the model that is in the blonde version and then loaded the blonde version firmware from the Fender site. I prefer the sound of the blonde, but prefer the look of the black model since that is what "Deluxe Reverb" has always been to me. Also, getting it used saved me quite a bit even after the upgrade speaker which I got from Sweetwater.
Tony
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Seems too good to be true right?
Originally Posted by jim777
My old Twin helps to heat my family room in the winter. I might miss that.
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I’ll just cross that bridge when I get to it.
Originally Posted by wzpgsr
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Watch out for the trolls under the bridges.
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I am resurrecting this interesting thread just to point out that at post #65 lawson-stone posted a video comparison between the Tone Master Tweed Reverb and the Princeton Reverb Reissue but I could not find a place where it was revealed which is which, although I also liked the first amp. It would be nice to know, if possible
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Somebody else talked about having three noses, then:
Now where are you going to find glasses to fit a face like that?
Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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True enough. That’s probably…
Originally Posted by dconeill
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Sometimes one is enough
Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit

Skickat från min iPad med Tapatalk
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I am utterly humiliated to say that I don't remember which was which, and cannot find any notes that have that information. I really am sorry about that.
Originally Posted by Jazz_175
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It may well be worthy of a revisit. Anything worth doing is worth doing again - Apocalypse Reverb Redux, anyone?
Originally Posted by lawson-stone

In any case, your videos are always informative and enjoyable! Well done, LS!
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I might indeed; I haven't played as much in 2022 due to other pressing matters stealing time and effort. I might work something up and do another SBS.
Originally Posted by citizenk74
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Will there be a ToneMaster Princeton ?
anyone know anything ?
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Last night, I played a 5 piece blues gig with another guitarist who brought his new Tone Master Deluxe. It was in a medium sized venue with a pretty high ceiling (the "lounge" at World Cafe Live, for those who know it) and we were mic'ed. But before the sound guy even got out the mics, we were playing with the settings - and it was actually fine on 1 watt! Using a Tele with plain vanilla pickups, it was clean at reasonable volume but started to break up when the guitar volume was cranked. He played the entire gig at 1 watt, and it sounded fantastic!
It's not as sensitive to picking as a good tube amp or a Quilter (he's had several) and when it's dialed to break up, it does so regardless of how hard the guitar is played. Even set for full output power, it doesn't have the clean headroom I'd like for bigger gigs without sound reinforcement. But it's fantastic for the blues - plenty loud and with wonderful tone and flexible settings. He played with no pedals or effects, which is unusual for him. He's been using at least a MojoMojo pedal every time we've played together for the last 2 years or so, even through a CS PRRI. But the TM Deluxe sounded as good to us all as the "real thing" without effects.
If the Twin sounds as good and has the headroom we need for jazz (which I'm told by those who have them is the case), it's a no-brainer! The XLR out also works great. The sound guy ran it straight to the board, and it only needed a touch of boost when the room was full, which (praise the deity of your choice) it was!!
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Pingu, can't resist. Toob 10S and Quilter SuperBlock US is all the Princeton you need, except more where it counts (25W instead of 15W) and less where it counts (2.8 kg vs. 12.7 kg; under 700€ vs 1500€.) Princeton has always been considered superb for recording but a bit underpowered for gigging. The SuperBlock claims 25W tube power, and the 10" Jensen Tornado takes 100W should you ever want to switch to a more powerful amp. The latest Toob 10S delivered was to a pro guitarist who already owns a Princeton.
Originally Posted by pingu
Disclaimer: I'm the Toob guy. Soon 500 made.



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