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    I recall seeing a photo from one of you fine gentlemen, showing a Fender amp that with its tolex removed.
    It looked fantastic, and I'm considering (maybe/maybe not) doing this to one of my amps.

    Try as I might, I cannot locate the thread.

    Also, if any of you know of a service that would 'skin' tolex off of an amp in the S.F. Bay area, feel free to chime in.

    Thanks in advance!

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    what if you grab a razor blade ?

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    Would a heat gun be a crazy idea?
    Last edited by Tal_175; 03-13-2019 at 07:33 AM.

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    Jeez considering how many there are out with the tolex coming off without any help I'd think it would be a piece of cake. I think you'll have some surprises under the tolex, cracks, chips out and gone to fix, just be aware that they don't ALL look fantastic!

    I re-did my tweed 52 pro, here's before, during and after but before the shellac.

    How to skin a tolex amp?-pro_front-jpg

    How to skin a tolex amp?-tolex_ready-jpg

    How to skin a tolex amp?-cab_tweed_done-jpg

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    I have had good luck with spray on truck bed liner.

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    Make sure it's an actual wood cabinet.....you might find particle board underneath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by customxke
    Make sure it's an actual wood cabinet.....you might find particle board underneath.
    Good thought. The project amp under consideration is an '80 Fender Concert.

    Any idea if those were Pine or Particle Board? Its a heavy beast, but mostly due to the big iron and EV12.

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    by '80 i'd think its mdf/ply...solid pine was a thing of the past for fender at that point!



    cheers

    ps- the other issue is not the actual tolex..but the type of glue used to bond it..gonna require heavy sanding..and most likely toxic
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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    by '80 i'd think its mdf/ply...solid pine was a thing of the past for fender at that point!



    cheers

    ps- the other issue is not the actual tolex..but the type of glue used to bond it..gonna require heavy sanding..and maybe toxic

    Thanks for everyone's reply thus far.

    Armed with this info I think I'll leave well enough alone and simply focus on the amp's tone...which is great.

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    Look up Amptronics on 9th Street, just south of Mission. The guy is an electronically genius. Honest to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
    I recall seeing a photo from one of you fine gentlemen, showing a Fender amp that with its tolex removed.
    It looked fantastic, and I'm considering (maybe/maybe not) doing this to one of my amps.

    Try as I might, I cannot locate the thread.

    Also, if any of you know of a service that would 'skin' tolex off of an amp in the S.F. Bay area, feel free to chime in.

    Thanks in advance!
    This thread

    Check that the cabinet is not beaver board, particle board, medium density fiber board, or plywood (although plywood might be OK if you put some work into filling it and doing some prep).

    The Tolex comes off with some pulling and tearing; it's the old glue that is tough (like epoxy if old enough). Don't waste time with ordinary sandpaper, get the rough "stipper" kind to save you a few days of labor, then switch to finer grit once the glue is gone.

    Here's another picture of it just for fun...

    How to skin a tolex amp?-0428181350-01-jpg

    I discovered that the top, bottom, and both sides all have a beauty mark (knothole) on them - because they were all cut from the same piece of wood...

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    A belt sander with coarse grit will go through anything.

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    Older amps used hide glue, which can be softened with heat, steam, or misting with white vinegar. I used hide glue for recovering, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauln
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    Check that the cabinet is not beaver board, particle board, medium density fiber board, or plywood (although plywood might be OK if you put some work into filling it and doing some prep).

    The Tolex comes off with some pulling and tearing; it's the old glue that is tough (like epoxy if old enough). Don't waste time with ordinary sandpaper, get the rough "stipper" kind to save you a few days of labor, then switch to finer grit once the glue is gone.

    Here's another picture of it just for fun...

    How to skin a tolex amp?-0428181350-01-jpg

    I discovered that the top, bottom, and both sides all have a beauty mark (knothole) on them - because they were all cut from the same piece of wood...
    That's the one!! Beautiful result on your Super Reverb. What year is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
    That's the one!! Beautiful result on your Super Reverb. What year is it?
    1965...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauln
    1965...!
    Ah...one of those early Blackface amps, made of knotty pine. Very cool!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
    Look up Amptronics on 9th Street, just south of Mission. The guy is an electronically genius. Honest to deal with.

    just for info...that would be hal petcher at guitartronics...nicest guy in town, known him for decades..the go to amp guy in sf for years!!...fenders his specialty..but he's an electronics guy...don't think he'd want to get involved with tolex..that's a separate skill!

    he moved- now @

    43 Dore St
    San Francisco, CA 94103
    b/t Folsom St & Howard St

    highly recommended always for tube amp tech repairs


    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    just for info...that would be hal petcher at guitartronics...nicest guy in town, known him for decades..the go to amp guy in sf for years!!...fenders his specialty..but he's an electronics guy...don't think he'd want to get involved with tolex..that's a separate skill!

    he moved- now @

    43 Dore St
    San Francisco, CA 94103
    b/t Folsom St & Howard St

    highly recommended always for tube amp tech repairs


    cheers
    Thanks for clarifying the name. I've heard good things about this amp repair shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauln
    Oh s*** that looks great.