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Originally Posted by TedBPhx
Good to know... and do you know if there is a real difference between the speaker and circuits of the Katana artist and the katana 100?
I guess the best judge will be to try out the artist version.
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06-21-2018 10:19 AM
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Do you need to climb stairs often with the amp?
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Not everyday.
But once a week perhaps
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My main amp is a Princeton with a 12 inch speaker. I played big band gigs with it (sax, trumpet and all), not very big venues. It was plenty loud both for chords and solo lines. I've never played a loud bar gig with it. I played blues gigs with a 20watt Mesa in the past but of course clean sound wasn't required for that.
I suggested Deluxe Reverb because I don't have experience playing loud jazz gigs with Princeton in bars or big venues and OP required a "big amp".
Amp headroom is also a question of whether one likes Jim Hall sound or Grant Green, Kenny Burrell sound. I am more the latter. I only need clean sound for chord work which shouldn't be very loud. For solo's I boost the amp and I don't mind if there is a little breakup.
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The Artist has a pine? vs MDF cabinet and one of their Waza speakers. It also weighs 10lbs more. I believe the electronics are the same with the Artist having a MIDI connector like the head does. Originally Posted by nick_wolf
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I think I’ll try a more efficient speaker (Eminence Hemp Dog) in my DRRI rather than laying out a grand or more on a new amp. A bit louder and cleaner than the current Jensen P12Q (which is probably a great speaker for rock and blues). 102 db sensitivity vs 94 db. Appears to be a drop-in on a Deluxe.
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Looks like a great speaker. Good luck! Please share your findings. Originally Posted by Bach5G
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I think the difference between a 35 to 40 watt amp with a more efficient speaker (Fender Pro, vibrolux, Allen, Vintage Sound, Headstrong, whatever) and a Deluxe is worth the extra weight of the former, as some gigs can get louder than you might expect, or you play a dead room and a Deluxe will start flubbing out on the bottom end as one strains to keep up. That’s an uninspiring experience.
By the time you drop a higher efficiency speaker in with a heavier magnet, you are getting in the weight range of a 40 watt BF style combo anyway, so why not just show up with more than enough headroom? I think having a good princeton and a good 40 watt head/cab or combo covers more gig territory than a Deluxe, which seems less versatile, unless you are either playing a low to medium volume jazz gig or just like some hair at all times (not my thing on a jazz gig.) I just don’t have much use for a deluxe, headroom wise, though they sound great. But of course, it all depends.
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I had 2 JC-120 in the past, an older model with the metal dustcap and later on an early '90s one.
They were very good for processed tones, I was using a Boss GT5 pedal at the time and they could deliver with their almost hifi range.
I found the tone too clean, almost clinical on its own, definitely need some processing!
Other factor was also the size and weight which is far too much for a 60W x 2 channels transistor based amp.
From the list, I would probably get the Fender HotRod Deluxe, which while it may not have has much clean headroom as the JC120 or modeller amps, will sound more organic.
Someone should tell MVI his HRD has not enough headroom
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I’ve had mixed success with an HRD. I had one that worked well enough. OTOH, I used one in a school band room that we used to rehearse in. The kids had trashed it and it sounded terrible. A couple of weeks ago, it had a tag on it indicating it had been repaired. Still sounded bad.
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I do like how Adrian uses a 120 [forward to about 5:40 for some good fun!]:
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The Cabinet Resonance and Line Out Air Feel knobs that appear on the Artist take control of settings that you need to access through the Tone Studio software on the Katana 100. Originally Posted by TedBPhx
I have a JC-90, a Katana 50, and the Katana 100. Both of the Katanas do a good job emulating the JC, are much cleaner (the JC-90 hisses like crazy), and weigh much less. I’m 53, and live in a 3rd. floor apartment- I really don’t care to be carrying that much weight up and down those stairs anymore.
The 50 was my first Katana (got it for under a buck-80, brand new at Sam Ash last year). I recently acquired the 100 used with the Foot Controller, and prefer this amp, due the higher output, storage of 8 different profiles, effects loop, and the ability to use the controller to switch between them.
If my son follows through and takes up the guitar again, I’ll let him use the 50.
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I finally decided for a boss katana 50.
I am quite impressed in the quality and versatility of this $200 box
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Nick, good choice. I recently added a used Kat 50 to the stable as well and it's one of the most versatile little amps I've ever had. Unbelievable bang for buck.
On top of "unlocking" all the hidden amp options via USB / Tone Studio (pretty well documented), you may also want to look into the open source FX FloorBoard software as it can open up quite a few additional "hidden" options on the Katana series. There is an awful lot of shared brain between the GT-100 and the Katana lineup.
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Hello, just a minor update after some time and use of the Katana 50, I still think it is a very useful amp to have, but I would say also not enough if you want to go loud into a big room or rehearsal. However, for small stuff is perfect and quite honestly i mainly use the clean voice with some reverb... then put some pedal in front and that's it.
I was in the need of something louder and sturdy as the katana, after some research and music store visits I took a Peavey Bandit 112 (last edition), I am very happy, it has some variations in the clean channel and in the distortion, effect loop and a decent reverb. I found that the amp has tones of head room and a very nice open cabinet. It is not as heavy as I would expected and the best is that I got it in a music store as "open box" for half the price :-)
I haven't seen many reviews of this amp among jazz musicians but I highly recommend it. Very versatile and build as a tank.
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