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    I'll only have all three of these in my possession for a limited time, as I've put two of them on the market. I had to get a pic of all three together though. I mean, how often do you get to see three GJSs in the same place.

    The one on the left is my 1968 that was just refretted. The honeymoon continues. I love that guitar.

    In the middle is a 1976 it's been refretted. It's a great guitar too. If I didn't have my '68, I would be keeping this one.

    On the right is a 1980. It is one made shortly after the switch to the fingers tailpiece. It still has the original wide-low frets. It's a great guitar, but I would have to replace those frets if I were keeping it. I like tall wire too much.


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    Beautiful

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    I'm saving that picture

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    How variable is the amplified and acoustic sounds among the three?

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    +1 on MG's question. My guess would be that the one on the left has the best acoustic sound, but that can be quite variable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentone
    +1 on MG's question. My guess would be that the one on the left has the best acoustic sound, but that can be quite variable.
    As a quick answer, in my opinion, you're right. I think the '68 definitely has the best acoustic tone. I'll try to be more in depth soon and if I can get it together, maybe I'll post some clips for comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
    As a quick answer, in my opinion, you're right. I think the '68 definitely has the best acoustic tone. I'll try to be more in depth soon and if I can get it together, maybe I'll post some clips for comparison.
    Thanks! Very nice to see the trio.

    As a proud owner of a 76 GJS i'm very much wondering about the difference of the electric tone of the three. And i'm also wondering if refretting the 76 has changed the tone in any way.

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    Beautiful! Now if only you had a Guild JS from the 50's, a Heritage JS from the 90's and a Guild/Benedetto from the 2000's, the saga would be complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    Beautiful! Now if only you had a Guild JS from the 50's, a Heritage JS from the 90's and a Guild/Benedetto from the 2000's, the saga would be complete.
    Since you referenced the "Grand Slam" of JS Guitars:

    Images compliments of "The Unique Guitar Blog":
    THE UNIQUE GUITAR BLOG: Johnny Smith Guitars


    50's Guild JS


    Heritage JS


    Guild (Fender) Benedetto JS

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    All three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-d18d26650bcfb656ee845fda9e9dd793-jpg

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    cheers
    Last edited by neatomic; 05-23-2017 at 06:02 PM.

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    Wow! Great photos. Johnny and the Gretsch 400 El Dorado is a bit like Barney Kessel and photos with him and a Telecaster. He used it, but it's not what he preferred. OTOH, the 400 El Dorado _was_ the guitar that Freddie Green preferred, and he had both an Epiphone Emperor and a Stromberg 400 at home. He played the Gretsch for over 30 years.

    That's a cool Melita bridge on the Guild Johnny Smith, by the way. I have owned different Gretsch 6120 guitars. The one with the Melita bridge (original owner added it in '64) sounded the best.

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    Back when I owned a number of Smiths, this one from 1968 was always my favorite and probably the only one with which I gigged or recorded:



    Photo from 1970.

    Danny W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny W.
    Back when I owned a number of Smiths, this one from 1968 was always my favorite and probably the only one with which I gigged or recorded:



    Photo from 1970.

    Danny W.
    love them old koss headphones!!! haha

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    Beautiful! Now if only you had a Guild JS from the 50's, a Heritage JS from the 90's and a Guild/Benedetto from the 2000's, the saga would be complete.
    And throw a Gibson Le Grand in there while you're at it


    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    And throw a Gibson Le Grand in there while you're at it


    LOL
    Ok

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    I'd settle for ONE.

    And WOW- that's the first reference I've ever seen to JS playing a Gretsch! I knew about all the others, but not Grestch.

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    In '68-'70 or so, those Koss 'phones were about the best sounding around--but hot and heavy.

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    Rhythm Man,
    wow. Not very often do you see a picture like that.
    let me ask you a question. How are the neck profiles? Anyone deeper than the others?
    Also, for some reason it seems like Johnny preferred the finger tailpiece to the L5 style.
    I can attest, the Gibson Johnny Smith is the guitar of a lifetime. I hope whoever buys them are big Johnny Smith fans.
    Sometimes I just sit and stare at my JS, just like I used to with my D'Angelico Excel. The proportions of both guitars are so perfectly appealing.
    Good Luck with your sale.
    Joe D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny W.
    Back when I owned a number of Smiths, this one from 1968 was always my favorite and probably the only one with which I gigged or recorded:



    Photo from 1970.

    Danny W.
    Danny great picture of an almost new Johnny. The color is spectacular. The white bindings and the shine of the finish are captured beautifully in that pic.
    Only one thing. How did you play that magnificent guitar with a belt buckle so close to it? If it was me, I would have let my pants fall off instead of running the risk of scratching it up.
    Great pic.
    Joe D

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    Just thought I'd toss my hat in the ring..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny W.
    Back when I owned a number of Smiths, this one from 1968 was always my favorite and probably the only one with which I gigged or recorded:



    Photo from 1970.

    Danny W.
    Dang it...who are you "Danny W."? Best guitar collection and best guitar photos, always. Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    And throw a Gibson Le Grand in there while you're at it


    LOL


    How about this one?

    It's a 2003, Hutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzNote
    Thanks! Very nice to see the trio.

    As a proud owner of a 76 GJS i'm very much wondering about the difference of the electric tone of the three. And i'm also wondering if refretting the 76 has changed the tone in any way.
    I'm not the one who had the '76, but I'm guessing that it did change it a little. The tone of my '68 changed some. Mostly it just gained more clarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Rhythm Man,
    wow. Not very often do you see a picture like that.
    let me ask you a question. How are the neck profiles? Anyone deeper than the others?
    Also, for some reason it seems like Johnny preferred the finger tailpiece to the L5 style.
    I can attest, the Gibson Johnny Smith is the guitar of a lifetime. I hope whoever buys them are big Johnny Smith fans.
    Sometimes I just sit and stare at my JS, just like I used to with my D'Angelico Excel. The proportions of both guitars are so perfectly appealing.
    Good Luck with your sale.
    Joe D
    Thanks for the comment, Joe. I was actually compared the neck profiles when I took this photo today. They feel remarkably similar to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan


    How about this one?

    It's a 2003, Hutch.
    Yup

    That'll do



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    I wish I had 3! It's just my favorite guitar! Why are you selling?

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    Last edited by skiboyny; 05-24-2017 at 09:24 AM. Reason: add dialog

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiboyny
    I wish I had 3! It's just my favorite guitar! Why are you selling?

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    That color is mesmerizing. its the nicest color Ive ever seen.
    Beautiful.
    JD

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    All three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-dsc_0882-jpgThank you Joe,
    It's my favorite guitar. The Johnny Smiths are a very special guitar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    That color is mesmerizing. its the nicest color Ive ever seen.
    Beautiful.
    JD
    Last edited by skiboyny; 05-24-2017 at 10:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiboyny
    I wish I had 3! It's just my favorite guitar! Why are you selling?

    All three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-dsc_0880-jpgAll three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-legrand-jpg
    Those are gorgeous guitars! Red guitars always have some attraction for me that I really can't explain.

    I love my '68 and my Legrand. Those are keepers for me. Honestly, I just got a deal too good to pass up on the '76 and the '80. At the same time, I can't justify keeping them, especially since I have my eye on another guitar. I'm hoping these can help fund that.

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    You guys missed the Gibson Johnny Smith P-90s model!

    This is the rarest one of all. Gibson made exactly 0 of these.

    Gibson Johnny Smith 1968 Sunburst | Reverb


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Grass
    You guys missed the Gibson Johnny Smith P-90s model!

    This is the rarest one of all. Gibson made exactly 0 of these.

    Gibson Johnny Smith 1968 Sunburst | Reverb


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    I saw that one! I almost dared to ask about the state of the internal bracing of that it. The case has some serious offgassing damage. I have a hard time believing that finish is original.

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    and here some more GJS & GJS inspired ....

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    MG, I am a little skeptical about that Johnny Smith with all that crap on it.

    JazzNote, I knew you had some good stuff, but Jeeze, now that I can visualize it, I have to say something.. You are a lucky man!

    I cant believe how much of a peasant I am around here.. 1-GJS. 1-Tal. 1-165.. I'm surprised you guys even let me post here anymore..

    Joe D

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    Thank you! The "red" Legrand is actually called sunrise orange. It's a different color to be sure. I wouldn't say it's my favorite but the guitar is killer sounding and playing and in pristine shape also at a price point that I couldn't pass on. This shot is a bit closer.All three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-legrand-so-jpg
    Where are the details of your guitar sales?.I didn't see it on the "for sale" page.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
    Those are gorgeous guitars! Red guitars always have some attraction for me that I really can't explain.

    I love my '68 and my Legrand. Those are keepers for me. Honestly, I just got a deal too good to pass up on the '76 and the '80. At the same time, I can't justify keeping them, especially since I have my eye on another guitar. I'm hoping these can help fund that.
    Last edited by skiboyny; 05-24-2017 at 03:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    MG, I am a little skeptical about that Johnny Smith with all that crap on it.

    JazzNote, I knew you had some good stuff, but Jeeze, now that I can visualize it, I have to say something.. You are a lucky man!

    I cant believe how much of a peasant I am around here.. 1-GJS. 1-Tal. 1-165.. I'm surprised you guys even let me post here anymore..

    Joe D
    Max405, the criteria for posting here includes the ability to play, note perfect,
    Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No3 in D minor, The Flight of the Bumble Bee ,
    and Giant Steps, on the Flute, Harmonica and upright Double Bass, in all keys
    only then will you be deemed fit and proper to make facetious comments,
    SF

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiboyny
    Thank you! The "red" Legrand is actually called sunrise orange. It's a different color to be sure. I wouldn't say it's my favorite but the guitar is killer sounding and playing and in pristine shape also at a price point that I couldn't pass on. This shot is a bit closer.All three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-legrand-so-jpg
    Where are the details of your guitar sales?.I didn't see it on the "for sale" page.
    The early years of the Le Grand had some weird colors listed as the official options ....

    That's why I ordered my 93 Le Grand in Chablis (aka pink) .... I really didn't like the other colors ... but the Chablis is gorgeous ... if you don't mind pink

    I suspect there were a few blondes and sunbursts from the first few years, but those options may have added an extra charge for a custom color

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    The choice of woods and workmanship on the Le Grand is so outstanding it really doesn't end up mattering what color they put on em! I like them all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    The early years of the Le Grand had some weird colors listed as the official options ....

    That's why I ordered my 93 Le Grand in Chablis (aka pink) .... I really didn't like the other colors ... but the Chablis is gorgeous ... if you don't mind pink

    I suspect there were a few blondes and sunbursts from the first few years, but those options may have added an extra charge for a custom color

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiboyny
    Thank you! The "red" Legrand is actually called sunrise orange. It's a different color to be sure. I wouldn't say it's my favorite but the guitar is killer sounding and playing and in pristine shape also at a price point that I couldn't pass on. This shot is a bit closer.All three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-legrand-so-jpg
    Where are the details of your guitar sales?.Where are the details of your guitar sales?I didn't see it on the "for sale" page.
    I have them listed on Reverb, but I haven't gotten them listed on here. I would definitely give a substantial discount to sell to a forum member. I'd take $1000 off of what I have either listed for on Reverb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfoxx
    Max405, the criteria for posting here includes the ability to play, note perfect,
    Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No3 in D minor, The Flight of the Bumble Bee ,
    and Giant Steps, on the Flute, Harmonica and upright Double Bass, in all keys
    only then will you be deemed fit and proper to make facetious comments,
    SF
    Now I'm really screwed.
    does 1/2 of Giant steps count? I can play Scatterbrain by Jeff Beck, does that count a little bit toward flight of the bumble bees?
    JD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Grass
    You guys missed the Gibson Johnny Smith P-90s model!

    This is the rarest one of all. Gibson made exactly 0 of these.

    Gibson Johnny Smith 1968 Sunburst | Reverb


    All three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-2017-05-24-11_59_06-gibson-johnny-smith-1968-sunburst-_-reverb-jpgAll three decades of the Gibson Johnny Smith-2017-05-24-11_59_39-gibson-johnny-smith-1968-sunburst-_-reverb-jpg
    I'm puzzled MG--did someone take an L5C and attach everything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helios
    I'm puzzled MG--did someone take an L5C and attach everything else?
    My initial thought too, Helios, but I think that it looks like a Super 400 style headstock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
    My initial thought too, Helios, but I think that it looks like a Super 400 style headstock.
    and the inlays look like a Johnny Smith

    I guess it could have started out a Super V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    Now I'm really screwed.
    does 1/2 of Giant steps count? I can play Scatterbrain by Jeff Beck, does that count a little bit toward flight of the bumble bees?
    JD
    Hi Ho Silver Lining , by Jeff Beck? or Birds of Fire Mahavishnu Orchestra for openers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max405
    JazzNote, I knew you had some good stuff, but Jeeze, now that I can visualize it, I have to say something.. You are a lucky man!
    Joe D


    Joe, yes i consider myself lucky indeed. It was hard work to acquire them and it has payed off - i enjoy playing all of them regularly.


    I think you should consider yourself lucky too. You have the most beautiful 165 i've ever seen, your GJS sounds & looks gorgeous and i hear so much good about the Tals ....... .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    and the inlays look like a Johnny Smith

    I guess it could have started out a Super V
    Smart thinking! L5 sized body with a Super 400 neck = Super V (perhaps at one time at least).
    Only thing is a Super V would have a humbucker sized pickup routing which would be wider than a P90 routing. Very puzzling!


    Super V:
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    I sent a message to the P-90 seller re: nut, bracing and scale length.

    End of hijack.