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Hi guys,
I need your help because I'm looking for a special hollow body guitar : 15" or 15.5" (but not too thin), with 1 neck pickup.
Sound :
In amp : Round, warm, singing (for jazz, fusion, smooth jazz, funk)
Unplugged : I like to play unplugged so if the guitar has a good projection it could be very very nice.
I don't know if I need laminated or carved top and mini-floatted humbucker or double humbucker.
What do you think about it ?
Budget : +/- 2K (more if the guitar is available on thomann)
Thank's a lot!
PS : If I can put an little overdrive for play fusion that will be very perfect!
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07-05-2016 06:28 PM
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16" Peerless Monarch
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The Hofner Jazzica is 15 7/8" wide.
It has one floating pickup.
I think it's ideal for playing jazz, fusion, smooth jazz, funk and more.
You can put a bit of overdrive on it to play fusion.
You can easily find a used one in excellent condition within your budget range in Europe.
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I've got one for sale!
Originally Posted by Hammertone
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Eastman makes a series called the El Rey that might suit; they're 14". See Archtops - El Rey ? Eastman Guitars.
They also make 15" versions of some of their more traditional archtops, e.g., the AR603CE-15. Poke around the Eastman site. See also soundspure.com and guitarsnjazz.com.
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Sorry I didn't add this to my other reply.
Ibanez makes the SS300, which is a 15" archtop with a spruce top, and the AG series of 15" archtops with plywood tops
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I just bought one of those from Reverb for $900. Beautiful sounding and looking guitar. I was gonna suggest it but the OP specified a single pup archtop. Originally Posted by dconeill
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The Monarch 16 is a really nice guitar. Highly recommended.
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I'll add another vote for the Monarch 16.
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Thank's for your remplies!
The Jazzica by Höfner is interessant. But I'm scared about the 16" of the Peerless Monarch and the Ibanez has too much pickups and potentiometers...
Months ago I asked me about the Peerless Maestro but I don't know if it can match with my Jazz styles (playing with a pick, not fingerstyle).
Somebody has already could test it ?
I have a D'Angelico EXL1 17,5". It's nice to play unplugged sitting on a chair but when I'm standing plugged into the amp it becomes less confortable.
Nobody can tell me if I need to choose a massive or laminated top ?
Just last precison : I really like when the hollow body's guitar had least hole in the body as it possible.
Thank's a lot guys you rocks!
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Check out the Fibonacci range, they are on Facebook and their website should be active v. soon I'm told. UK company. Range of nice looking jazz guitars in smaller sizes.
I played the Peerless Maestro and Virtuoso a year or two ago, and liked both (playing with a pick,) then they put the price up! I see Thomann and others have it at the old pre-increase price again. Of the two I preferred the Maestro, ebony board, slightly more acoustic volume and clearer sound to my ears. Do a forum search, there are a couple of reviews on here. I've just bought a Gibson ES-275, 15" wide, 2" deep, that does it for me, but two pickups and a bit over your budget.Last edited by bananafist; 07-06-2016 at 04:53 AM.
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I think the OP might have conflicting requirements. Originally Posted by LarryBarry
minimum holes in the top; jazz; good projection > a solid-spruce topped guitar
fusion; smooth jazz; funk > laminate-top guitar
No one guitar does all jobs. Particularly for fusion and funk, a bridge pickup would be useful. But a two-pickup guitar is less woody-sounding than an single-pickup guitar, particularly if the two-pickup is laminate and the one-pickup has a solid top. A solid-top guitar will feed back more easily than a laminate-top guitar, so if you're going to play loud, consider that.
Perhaps the OP should find and play some examples of both solid-top and laminate-top guitars, to determine which is preferred? Another possibility is to look closely at the players you want to emulate and examine the guitars they play - that should give you some clues as to what you're looking for.
Solid-top archtops are not particularly versatile. They're very good at what they do, though, and nothing quite matches them. On the other hand, if you need one guitar that will do a pretty good job at many genres, a semihollow laminate is often the best choice.
So, no, I can't tell you what you need. You have to determine that. Start by thinking about what kind of music you want to play with it; what players who play that kind of music use; your budget; and whether you need it just at home or whether it is to be a gigging guitar. Chances are you'll come up with conflicting desires; you're the one who has to resolve those.
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For a real hollow body I would recommend keeping your eye out for a Heritage Sweet 16 ....
But that might not be as good for fusion or funk
They also seem to be hard to find in Europe ... if you're not ready to buy from the states
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Epiphone ES-339.
Epiphone ES-339 Pro NA - Thomann UK
There, I said it.
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You're right Dconeill. I try to find the perfect guitar who doesn't exist. Especially for archtop's guitars.
I was thinking about that you said and I concluded that double humbuckers are not a bad idea. Never mind the holes on top. I'll buy a ES150 in à few years for a jazz acoustic sound.
My favorite sound's guitar players are :
- JOE GLOSS from Organissimo, smooth, funky, really lovely
- LEE RITENOUR, like his style
- ERIK KRASNO, lovely fusion
I may think that a ES-275 like could be really good compromise.
Secondly you're speaking about a semi-hollow laminated guitar but I have already a Gibson SG (Std 2007) and it could seems likely, isn't ?
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way more than 2k but very nice!
ES-275 Figured | New Arrivals | Wildwood Guitars
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Another great guitar is the Benedetto Bambino Std. Usually around $2.5 k used or $4k new
http://pricebot.info/benedetto-bambi...zz-guitar-mint
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You can pick up a nice used Paul Reed Smith Hollowbody in your price range. Feather light, very versatile and sounds great for just about anything. Great for jazz and fusion, sounds great with a little overdrive, and doesn't feed back. Oh, and the playability is extraordinary.
Definitely worth a try.
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I thought about the PRS Hollowbody but I prefer an archtop guitar.
Because if I cut the trebble of my SG it will sounds like a semi-hollow body.
I prefer to focus on a "aerial" sound, like Joe Gloss :
In their album, the Joe Gloss sound is really sweet!
Can you see guitar who could make this job ?
Thank's a lot!
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Joe is playing a German-made Hofner Verythin Standard from @2004. Key specifications:
-25 1/4" scale
-spruce block
-Hofner mini-humbucking pickups
You can get the same or a remarably similar sound from a:
-German-made Hofner Verythin Standard from 2002-2006 (in 2006 they changed the specifications)
-German-made Hofner Verythin Classic from 2000-2010
-German-made Hofner Verythin John Stowell from 2001-2010 (this has only one pickup)
-German-made Hofner Thin President from @2006-current, depending on which run (some have full-sized humbuckers, sone have minis, some have Bigsbys).
-Limited Edition German-made Hofner Verythin Standard (current) - most of these have full-sized humbucking pickups and have been produced every year or so since @2012.
These instruments are not hard to find in Europe and are an excellent value purchased used.Last edited by Hammertone; 07-09-2016 at 03:32 PM.
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I think the OP has answered their own question. As somebody else stated, Gloss is playing a Hofner Verithin Standard from the 'Naughties, while Ritenour and Krasno both play semihollows much of the time. Originally Posted by LarryBarry
So it sounds like a 335-style guitar in the under $2k range is what the OP is looking for. There are lots of them on the market right now.
The ES-275 is certainly a lovely guitar, but is way outside the OP's stated price range, and while I don't diminish its qualities as a good guitar, it's not what the OP says he's looking for by his list of influences.Last edited by dconeill; 07-11-2016 at 01:46 PM.
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Hello guys,
Today I've plaid for the first time with the Gibson ES-335 and I've found the sound "flat" like my SG.
I've also plaid an ES-135. More the hollow's sound. Great playability. Nice neck but a little too fat.
But the finitions are simple. The ES-137 is more classy but I don't know if this giuitar is accessible for my budget (?)
Do you other guitars like the 135?
What do you think about this model?
And à hinline hollow body could be good too, isn't it?
Thank's!
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The 137 classic replaced the 135 and is available reasonably.
The 137 Custom is an upgraded version, with gold plating, varitone, ebony fretboard and other goodies.
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if you found the 335 to be flat and not hollow enough (and look plain) maybe consider an epiphone casino (or casino coupe, if you want the small body).
if you need something that looks pretty you may consider a gretsch, but those aren't going to be cheap, and they tend to be a little bright for most jazzers' taste (even though they are awesome). they now make semi hollows in addition to traditional full hollows and hollowed out solid bodies, like the jet and penguin.
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