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    Quote Originally Posted by docsteve
    Sorry, no. Albert Collins used both pick ups. That’s widely documented.


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    All the recordings that I had sounded like a bridge pickup. All the videos that I saw was bridge pickup. I mean he was nicknamed Iceman for reason. Maybe when he was comping he did? Can you present one of those widely documented sources?

    But even so, just proves my point. On a tele you need both.

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  3. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    Archtop guitars are guitars made to play jazz and the jazz tone is mostly on the neck pup. So if some want a neck pup only I get it. I don't mind it myself. What I don't get is 'jazz tele' with only neck pup. The iconic tele bridge sound is one of the wonders of the world, to cut it off is like a statement 'I'm too cool, i am very serious jazz person and have no time for your silly fun'. High nosed attitude. I think neck pup only teles are only made to troll a good folk.
    I don’t know about that. The Tele style guitar is cheap to make and comfortable to play. It’s been used as a platform for many sounds and playing styles. The traditional sound of an angled single coil Fender bridge pickup is great, but you are not obligated to use it just because you like some of the manufacturing and ergonomic innovations of the Tele style guitar. Why add the cost and complexity of a second pickup and selector switch if that is not the instrument you are looking for?


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  4. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    All the recordings that I had sounded like a bridge pickup. All the videos that I saw was bridge pickup. I mean he was nicknamed Iceman for reason. Maybe when he was comping he did? Can you present one of those widely documented sources?

    But even so, just proves my point. On a tele you need both.
    I clearly remember an interview where he said “I use both pickups “, but I can’t find the source. Anyway, why would he put a humbucker in the neck if he didn’t use it?

    But I may be wrong. And tour point is indeed proven either way.


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  5. #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by docsteve
    I clearly remember an interview where he said “I use both pickups “, but I can’t find the source. Anyway, why would he put a humbucker in the neck if he didn’t use it?

    But I may be wrong. And tour point is indeed proven either way.


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    He didn't put it there, it was aready there, a stock tele )). There was no custom shop or partcasters back in his day (at least i don't think so??) No 'jazz' teles, just teles. That you could perfectly play jazz on as is.

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    I enjoy using both in middle position, tone down on the neck, up on the bridge. Otherwise I feel I'm "missing half the story". Plus I just like that sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    He didn't put it there, it was aready there, a stock tele )). There was no custom shop or partcasters back in his day (at least i don't think so??) No 'jazz' teles, just teles. That you could perfectly play jazz on as is.
    Now I’d like to see your source Why a bridge pickup if you only want a jazz tone?

    A humbucking pickup that looks much like a Gibson PAF is certainly no part of a standard telecaster configuration.


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  8. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeko
    I enjoy using both in middle position, tone down on the neck, up on the bridge. Otherwise I feel I'm "missing half the story". Plus I just like that sound.
    I take it you have a deluxe telecaster? Love to hear that.


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  9. #83

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    Saw Jonathan Kreisberg play tonight. He used all three pickup settings on his 175 for rhythm as well as lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar67
    Saw Jonathan Kreisberg play tonight. He used all three pickup settings on his 175 for rhythm as well as lead.
    I bet that was a good show. I think it's great when someone utilizes all the tones available on their instrument. Truthfully, a Gibson with two volume and two tones can get a wide variety of sounds and all of them are pretty nice when used in the correct context. No doubt Kreisberg has a good handle on that.

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    Virtually all of my guitars except my Godin Kingpin (and a few classical A/Es) have had 2 pickups. However…I have NEVER used the bridge pickup. It just doesn’t give me anything I need for jazz or accompanying singers or whatever.

    One time I had a problem on stage with the neck pickup of an Epi JP I was using. I had to use the bridge pickup. I made it work with the treble rolled off, but I didn’t like it.

    Single neck pickup guitars are not common, though, so I take them as they come.

    FWIW I just did a Strat build using parts from GFS. Turned out well, but man the pickups and selection switch on that one are WEIRD.

  12. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by docsteve
    [...] Anyway, why would he put a humbucker in the neck if he didn’t use it?

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    It's a conspiracy to keep people busy with discussions like this.

    Seriously, why doesn't anyone ever talk about how it affects the on depending on where you strike the string between the bridge and the neck (or even above the neck)? How hard you hit it? At what angle the pick hits the string? But that's DIY and not for sale.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention switching between pick and fingers.

  13. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by docsteve
    I take it you have a deluxe telecaster? Love to hear that.


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    Au contraire, but funny as I always wanted one.

    L4CES is my favorite of 5 but 3 of the 5 have the two pickup Configuration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bop Head
    It's a conspiracy to keep people busy with discussions like this.

    Seriously, why doesn't anyone ever talk about how it affects the on depending on where you strike the string between the bridge and the neck (or even above the neck)? How hard you hit it? At what angle the pick hits the string? But that's DIY and not for sale.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention switching between pick and fingers.
    I'm with you you on this one! I play fingerstyle (because i started guitar with classical so i guess old habits xD) and i love playing all over the place depending on how i want to sound like, while using only the neck pickup. I like playing above the fretboard too, the only downside is (from my experience) for best results a slightly higher action seems to be the way to go, but then again, i am used to that from classical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzloverfat
    I'm with you you on this one! I play fingerstyle (because i started guitar with classical so i guess old habits xD) and i love playing all over the place depending on how i want to sound like, while using only the neck pickup. I like playing above the fretboard too, the only downside is (from my experience) for best results a slightly higher action seems to be the way to go, but then again, i am used to that from classical.
    If you combine this with the bridge pickup and the combination of the two P/Us, your different sound possibilities get threefold.

    I like to comp with the thumb (pick hidden in palm) and the neck P/U which results in a smooth sound that leaves room for singers and soloists.
    When it comes to soloing, I use the pick and can then enhance things even more by playing the bridge PU to give it even more bite.

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    Having a bridge pickup there is great when you turn way down for a quiet passage or when softly comping when someone else is soling. It adds a bit of clarity and sparkle so the guitar can be heard clearly even though it’s very soft. Not essential but nice to have.