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Aha! So there is no impact upon a floaters performance as its suspended over an oval hole? That was the question that motivated the creation of this thread. I'm in uncharted waters here.
Originally Posted by rpguitar
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05-31-2015 05:32 PM
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Memory serves correctly the first Gibson L-4 was a archtop oval hole around 1911. Originally Posted by fws6
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It's an interesting question and I don't know the answer. I'm guessing since most of the sound is the magnetic relationship between the strings and pickup it won't matter much. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
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Caveat on the using a soundhole mounted pickup: the distance from the hole to the strings on an oval hole archtop is much greater than on a flat top. The only soundhole mounted pickup I know of that will work is a Sunrise because the pole pieces are crazy adjustable. Of course, it's also far and away the best acoustic sound I've gotten and I've tried everything else except mic's. Originally Posted by Sam Sherry
Barbera Soloist? New to me. Does someone make an archtop bridge with this installed? Originally Posted by iim7V7IM7
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You will need a custom bridge for one. Here's one in my archtop. It has its own volume pot to blend with the magnetic pickup. You need a stereo cable and a 2-channel amp to do this. On my acoustic instrument under commission, it will only have a Barbera. Originally Posted by Spook410
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Interesting. A stereo setup isn't a problem. Any suggestions on someone to tap to build me a bridge?
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Funny that i stumbled upon this Koontz today that has both: KOONTZ1 - Acoustic Guitar Community
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Unfortunately, I do not. I know that both John Buscarino and Bill Comins are both installing them on their guitars. John has the greater experience with installing Barberas. It is a fairly involved installation (bridge, pot, wiring) and I doubt either of these two luthiers are repairing instruments other than their own. Call Rick Barbera. Perhaps he can recommend someone?
Originally Posted by Spook410
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Interesting. So on this entire forum no one has any experience with placing a floater on an oval holed archtop. I'd have lost that bet.
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I owned an Eastman AR-904CE similar to the image I posted. It had a factory floater. Not sure that counts. I also have a Forshage oval hole with a floater, and I switched it for another one. That probably counts.
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Thank you. Any pics of either? Originally Posted by rpguitar
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Robert Parker modified the Fishman Rare Earth Blend pickup to fit at the end of the fretboard of his $30 000 archtops. The Fishman Rare Earth Blend is a licensed product originated by Mike Vanden of Scotland New Mimesis Kudos blend system - Mike Vanden Guitars . Mike Vanden makes the Martin Taylor Artistry.
In an oval-soundhole acoustic archtop guitar, the Fishman Rare Earth Blend could just fit in nicely with no modification required. One could then use phosphor-bronze or 80/20 strings on an acoustic archtop and amplify it at the same time for the zing of a Robert Parker $30 000 wundergitarre on a shoe-string.Last edited by Jabberwocky; 06-02-2015 at 01:26 AM. Reason: Some days, my Grampma goes into hiding.
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Greg, Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Does experience with oval-holed archtops that have floaters--rather than with placing floaters on oval-holed archtops--count? Many of us have experience playing such guitars. Here's a photo of Flyin'Brian's '67 Epiphone Howard Roberts. I have played both the Epi and the Gibson versions of this guitar. The Epiphone had a spruce top; the Gibson had a maple top. Both were good guitars with neck-mounted floaters. I have also played the Ibanez copy of the Gibson. It, too, is a good guitar--on par with the Norlin-era Gibson version, in many ways.
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Yes. I saw that guitar on ebay. Originally Posted by Greentone
Greg,
Does experience with oval-holed archtops that have floaters--rather than with placing floaters on oval-holed archtops--count? Many of us have experience playing such guitars. Here's a photo of Flyin'Brian's '67 Epiphone Howard Roberts. I have played both the Epi and the Gibson versions of this guitar. The Epiphone had a spruce top; the Gibson had a maple top. Both were good guitars with neck-mounted floaters. I have also played the Ibanez copy of the Gibson. It, too, is a good guitar--on par with the Norlin-era Gibson version, in many ways.
Vintage 1965 Epiphone Howard Roberts First Year Blonde Fusion Archtop ES 175 | eBay
It's funny how after initiating this thread I find this example which is nearly identical to the issue I'm facing with the incoming guitar. The fretboard end is angled and thus making a traditional horizontal mount is impossible without covering the hole...but this owner said to heck with that...he obviously desired to hear his guitar amplified with a traditional jazz floater too....I've never heard of this luthier - Roger Kitchens of Byron, GA
Here's his Cereza....Spanish for "cherry."
CSR Cereza | eBay
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Robert Parker = Emperor of Wine Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
Ken Parker = Archtop Luthier
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On mounting a Fishman Rare Earth.. K. Parker modified the pickup and came off the pickguard (and maybe neck? Can't see in this picture). You can't just drop one in the oval hole because you'll be too far from the strings. Shims may or may not work. Note that the pickup, typical of flat top magnetic's, is too deep to mount on your typical f hole pick guard. On this Parker guitar however, there is a lot of distance between the fretboard and body.
Last edited by Spook410; 06-03-2015 at 01:03 AM.
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I got my Parkers Crossed; much prefer Water,man. Originally Posted by iim7V7IM7
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