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    Is there any potential for damage keeping a guitar hanging on a wall? I'm probably being too cautious but with a vintage guitar that is on the heavier side I want to know if it will have any negative impact vs. leaving it on a stand. I like low action with a straight neck and with some guitars I notice that if I were to lay back and play that gravity pulls the neck down; barely but enough that it pulls the neck from straight to slightly back bowed. So I am not sure if over time there would be some problem caused by gravity while hanging on the wall.

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    Don't do it. This is the end result:

    Are Guitar Wall Hangers Safe?-long-neck-guitars-jpg

    From another angle:

    Are Guitar Wall Hangers Safe?-02-long-necks-guitars-jpg

    But I guess you can always try Drop Tuning. But forget about playing those Johnny Smith stretch chords.

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    I wonder how those axes got so many frets, just by hanging...

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    I love it. Tonite before I go to sleep, I will attach a particular Body part to one of my hangers and tomorrow morning I'll be legendary!
    All kidding aside, I've been hanging guitars for years, no problems. I cut the fingers off my sons old gloves and cover the tynes just make sure my guitar is touching cotton.
    Joe D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    I love it. Tonite before I go to sleep, I will attach a particular Body part to one of my hangers and tomorrow morning I'll be legendary!...
    I have it on good authority that it hurts...like mad. And yeah, what you gain in length, you lose in girth. Gives new meaning to "monkey on a stick".

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    Not an expert at all on this matter. But seen a lot of older instruments, where the lacquer on the neck was 'broken' and showed lots of checks, exactly where guitars usually hang. Maybe its a question how old the lacquer already is, not sure.

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    Keep it safe.......in a case.

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    I play more often if I leave guitars out - I have a rack in the room where I keep my stuff, but every other room has a hangar. I like looking at guitars too. So even though I know the case is best, I can't bring myself to keep them put away.

    Also, yeah those pictures are exactly what I'm afraid of! Maybe I should hang by my fingers and see if I can get some Tal Farlow hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rio
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    Also, yeah those pictures are exactly what I'm afraid of! Maybe I should hang by my fingers and see if I can get some Tal Farlow hands.
    Good one Rio.
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    I've had many guitars on wall hangers for over a dozen years. Mostly vintage guitars, never had a problem. (And I have two kids, now 13 and 15, a couple cats, and a golden retriever.)

    Like Rio, on the wall:
    - I play them more;
    - I enjoy looking at them.

    One more thing: when you have many guitars, I find it easier to monitor and control the temperature and relative humity of the whole room than maintaining a bunch of humifiers (one per case).

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    Are Guitar Wall Hangers Safe?-image__68145-1422927061-1280-1280-jpgAre Guitar Wall Hangers Safe?-image__50536-1422927062-1280-1280-jpg
    IMHO, this is where guitars should be!
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    There is a concern that the plastic they use to pad the cradle will interact with a nitro finish burning through it. You have to check with manufacturers to see if they are safe in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pubylakeg
    Keep it safe.......in a case.
    +1 on this! I keep my guitar in a locked case and I keep the key in a very safe place where I don't even remember. I find that not being able to get to my guitar not only protects it better but it also also helps me justify buying my next guitar on the grounds that I need a guitar I can play all the things I imagine on.
    Of course, once I've bought it, the process repeats itself.
    I've had to get a hammock because the concept of "under the bed" has gotten out of hand. Needless to say, my wife left me long ago.

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    Don't do it. This is the end result:

    Are Guitar Wall Hangers Safe?-long-neck-guitars-jpg



    But I guess you can always try Drop Tuning. But forget about playing those Johnny Smith stretch chords.
    And NEVER sleep in a bed where your head is lower than your feet. This is the end result:

    Are Guitar Wall Hangers Safe?-giraffe_with_guitar_by_polvoice-jpg

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by pubylakeg
    Keep it safe.......in a case.
    -1 absolutely not in a case this will enhance binding deterioration / pickguards outgassing on a vintage guitar

    wall hangers are the way to go to safely store vintage guitars IMO

    I also find I play a guitar more when I can quickly grab it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in London
    Not an expert at all on this matter. But seen a lot of older instruments, where the lacquer on the neck was 'broken' and showed lots of checks, exactly where guitars usually hang. Maybe its a question how old the lacquer already is, not sure.
    That's because that area, very localized and crucial, is the nexus of many forces on the guitar. The wood is supporting the weight of the strings, the wood grain is taking an angle, two pieces of wood are often thinned with a scarf joint and any trauma, no matter how slight (you've banged a peghead taking a guitar off, right?) will be felt most at that point. That's why there's checking there. I'd take brand new guitars newly shipped and IN cases and insulation, and the first thing I checked was that joint under the nut. That was because they would come in with shipping damage there, even flexing without structural damage would show in the finish. I can assure you, nobody even touched that guitar with a wall hanger.
    Assuredly, a wall hanger is not your prime suspect in finish checks under the nut.
    But that's just my humble opinion.
    David

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    With nitro finishes I always use a piece of silk on the hanger and I've never had a problem with damage to the lacquer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruthHertz
    That's because that area, very localized and crucial, is the nexus of many forces on the guitar. The wood is supporting the weight of the strings, the wood grain is taking an angle, two pieces of wood are often thinned with a scarf joint and any trauma, no matter how slight (you've banged a peghead taking a guitar off, right?) will be felt most at that point. That's why there's checking there. I'd take brand new guitars newly shipped and IN cases and insulation, and the first thing I checked was that joint under the nut. That was because they would come in with shipping damage there, even flexing without structural damage would show in the finish. I can assure you, nobody even touched that guitar with a wall hanger.
    Assuredly, a wall hanger is not your prime suspect in finish checks under the nut.
    But that's just my humble opinion.
    David
    That may well be. However, as you say, its an 'area, very localized and crucial, ... the nexus of many forces on the guitar.' Difficult to understand why the force that results from hanging the guitar's weight on that sensitive point should have no impact. Forces change in an instant when u take it off, maybe even by twisting it accidentally against the hanger ('things happen'), etc. Again, I am not writing this from a position of knowledge, just a common sense consideration that kept me from using hangers since 40+ years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in London
    Difficult to understand why the force that results from hanging the guitar's weight on that sensitive point should have no impact. Forces change in an instant when u take it off, maybe even by twisting it accidentally against the hanger ('things happen'), etc. .
    Sure the forces are going to change, but what changes when you take a guitar off a hanger is well within the parameters of a guitar's design. Lifting a guitar out of its case changes the inertial forces on a guitar too but the momentary force is minimal. Lifting a guitar off a hanger changes the forces on a guitar but it's not going to harm it; the momentary force won't effect it. Lifting a baby out of a crib is going to change the inertial forces on that baby, and it'll wake up but as long as it's not shaken or dropped, it's well within design specs.
    I build guitars. I repair guitars. I've seen literally thousands of guitars and inspected them for a big guitar company. Physics and acoustics was my area of study. I hang my guitars. But if the idea makes you uncomfortable, by all means, don't hang your guitar. It's far more important that you, your instrument, your comfort with your instrument takes precedence over any practices other people use. I'm just saying that as far as evidence is concerned, I don't believe it'll be harmful to anyone else who might want to hang their guitar. Do you pick your guitar up by the body when you remove it from the case? It's fine either way. Just make sure you hold onto it and play it well once it's in your hands. That's what's important.

    David

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    Roland saw this coming and did it right all those moons ago:

    Are Guitar Wall Hangers Safe?-g707-jpg

    How youse a-gonna hang dat?

    This thread reminds me of the argument of how many angels fit on the head of a pin?

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    Just to make sure - there is no argument here. Its interesting to read about David's experience. Some things are counterintuitive and still they are as they are. I will, however, still not hang my babies, just doesnt feel right. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fws6
    -1 absolutely not in a case this will enhance binding deterioration / pickguards outgassing on a vintage guitar

    wall hangers are the way to go to safely store vintage guitars IMO

    I also find I play a guitar more when I can quickly grab it
    this is not a concern since about the late '80s when they switched to plastic.