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Strings and set-up are more important for me than type of (electric) guitar. I just can't play anything approaching chord-melody on light strings with a low action; it feels kind of too "wobbly"
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04-23-2015 09:35 AM
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You could have hit me over the head with a hammer.
The L7c has a 24-3/4 scale? No way. Certainly doesn't feel that way. I'll measure it tonite.
Thanks for pointing that out.
JD
Originally Posted by Hammertone
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The other thing to consider with different guitars--massive differences in amp tweaking to optimize the best sound for each guitar
My example
Compare a hot pup on a solid body guitar with my guitars
ES 339 with a Lollar CC neck pup-hugely different than 57 classic
Solomon Impwrial with new Guild RC 1000 floater
These require a lot of thought in terms of tweaking amp to guitar and different pups
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I own 20 guitars, 4 solidbodies, 4 flattops and 12 archtops. When I play any of them, I sound like me. If I ever play a guitar that doesn't sound like me, I am going to buy it!
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hi, how long you practise or play a day? I had 15 guitars few years ago and did not practse at all just dirnking beer...:-) Originally Posted by Stringswinger
Last edited by kris; 04-23-2015 at 02:40 PM.
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Hammertone, Originally Posted by Hammertone
I just checked, my L7c is a Bozeman, 2004. Scale length for that year, 25-1/2". YES! Do your homework before you question the master
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I knew there was no way it could be 24-3/4. But, you scared me on that one.. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.
JD
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Lots of interesting views. I went through a ten year phase about 1988-1998 when all I played was a flat top acoustic dreadnought, and was determined to use it for every musical situation/style I encountered, ala Tommy Emmanuel. I forced myself to get everything I needed out of that one guitar, and it was a huge growth experience. Ever since then, I can use most any guitar, but preferably a Tele, and make it produce whatever guitar sounds the music demands.
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Na zdrowie Kris... Me too, and when I've had enough beer, all my guitars sound great Originally Posted by kris
Seriously though, the instrument's characteristics do bring out different aspects of one's playing IMO. When I play my archtop ( Hofner New Prez), I tend to have a heavier right hand and play more percussively. With my semi, there's ample sustain and I tend to play more legato. Same with my nylon string and flat top I think. Which is how it should be and what keeps us inspired I suppose ( and a pretty good excuse for having many guitars
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Fascinating, and thanks for measuring the scale length. The Gibson site lists it as 24 3/4", but I had seen mention somewhere of a 25 1/2" scale and wondered what was up with that. Maybe that's the one you have - maybe it was a custom order. My Bozeman L-7C is from very early 2004, and has a 24 3/4" scale. Joe Vinikow listed a 2003 (signed by Ren) with a 24 3/4" scale. All the later ones I've played or seen listed were described as having a 24 3/4" scale. Bozeman made very few of these between 2003 and now. I wonder how many they made, and how many have the long scale? Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
Hammertone,
I just checked, my L7c is a Bozeman, 2004. Scale length for that year, 25-1/2". YES! Do your homework before you question the master...
I knew there was no way it could be 24-3/4. But, you scared me on that one.. Thanks for keeping me on my toes. JDLast edited by Hammertone; 04-23-2015 at 06:03 PM.
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Amen to that ... not to say that I can do anything I want with a guitar but I spent four years of college studying classical guitar. Opens your eyes up to how much a player should really be able to manipulate the tone of his instrument with only his hands. Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
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and what about jazz improwisation on classical guitar? Originally Posted by pamosmusic
it is completly different world.I study clasical guitar.Tone is important but it is just technical thing.
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I strongly believe that instrument is related to style.. but this relation is important when you only climb up the mountain... what I mean if you start playing gipsy or early swing or hard-bop etc. you'd better get the instrument associated with the style.. I've played for years and when I started to play jazz I first used my classical guitar.. but when I go my first archtop it really inspired me and pushed me on...
I buy and sell to play into it.. to see how it works for me... and mostly because I cannot try really top instruments now. So I mostly try the 'types' of guitar...
besides new guitar is usually a kind of inspiration and excitement.. even my wife when she sees that I am getting a bit frustrated or tired (on any reaso - not on music) - she says: maybe it's time for you to try a new guitar?)))
but definitely I need only one.. but it should be really mine...
I do not like to keep instruments I do not play regularly - as it is said: when you own something you do not use - you steal it)))
Even playing several types of lutes and guitars I always tend to pick one and forever...
My idea now is to buy a few different types of relatively inexpensive in time period - one by one.. then sell them out and get the one I really want...
That's why I say that association with style is important to the certain point... I need versatality and I use different instruments and different technique (kind of multiinstrumentalistic approach - not very close to me) - I would call it 'outside approach'...
but one moment great players get to the point when they do not need it any more, they do not need something from outside to adopt themselves to the style... on the contrary they adopt styles to themselves and their instrument...
I think only one instrument is important because it should be really me.. continuation of me... I cannot get it playing different types of guitar every time...
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Classical guitar is by far different instrument... it's from jazz archtop as far as lute from classical guitar...Amen to that ... not to say that I can do anything I want with a guitar but I spent four years of college studying classical guitar. Opens your eyes up to how much a player should really be able to manipulate the tone of his instrument with only his hands.
versatality is quite modern approach in general... it is common that a pro should be able to play in different styles (like rock/jazz/ and even classical sometime)... moder lutists should play a range of instruments that actually were never played at a time in the period of their populatity...
At the same time I noticed that the best usually still have kind of specialization, something that they dedicate more time to...
I never actually heard really good multi-instrumentalists....
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I use for jazz/django style,bossa, and some modern staff/ modern classic Framework with nylons. Originally Posted by Jonah
Attachment 19704
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Looks nice! And I am sure sounds great!
But I would prefer reallly good acoustic guitar for these styles...
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Me too. Originally Posted by Jonah
But I have not problems with feedbacks,can play louder solos,I do not worry too much about wood and most important- I can play in tune because of the bridge/I can set up bridge for every kind of nylon strings/.
Guitar is also light/1,5 kg/ and easy to transport/frames/.
Sounds is quite good with good quality acoustic amp.
more...I can use midi GK synth...nut width 48 mm-very comfortabe for me.
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Originally Posted by kris
I was was just referring to the fact that we can manipulate tone quite a bit w our hands. A lot of the things people don't like so much about there tone I really believe can be fixed without switching gear. That's why so many people chase the right guitar or keep adding and selling pedals for years and years. It's also why I don't think I play much differently on different guitars. I try to get the guitar tone to somewhere familiar and then make more of the tone w my right hand. Not that every guitar is the same. I just don't change my approach when I'm playing something different.
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when i went from a 53 es 175 to a 2006 sadowsky jim hall it made me feel like i wasn't any longer trying to sound the way my heroes sounded (they almost all played 175s). that helped a lot - i think (i hope). i don't like the idea of trying to reproduce a classic vibe - even if i succeed all i'm doing is some sort of historical thing - and who cares about that? on the other hand, if i'm not trying to do that, what am i trying to do? god knows.
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Maybe is better for us do not hear too much guitar heroes.There are a lot of beautifull jazz instruments . Originally Posted by Groyniad
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Maybe is better for us do not hear too much guitar heroes.There are a lot of beautifull jazz instruments . Originally Posted by Groyniad
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again ... I did not play "a" classical guitar for four years. I played actual concert classical music on a classical guitar for college. I was referring to the fact that playing that instrument and that music makes you aware of the enormous expressive pallet available to a person even in the absence of pickups, knobs, amps, capacitors, tubes, etc. I learned to make my a lot of the sounds I want with my hands and carried that over to my electric guitar. For that reason the instrument itself doesn't really change the way I play as much as one might think. If I'm going to be blunt and honest I also think that A LOT of electric guitarists blame their instrument for their own technical shortcomings. My tone isn't punchy enough ... I'll just go buy a compressor. Originally Posted by Jonah
Last edited by pamosmusic; 04-24-2015 at 01:45 PM.
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Well, to be honest, a decent classical guitar is capable of a lot more tonal variation directly from the hands anyway.
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Oh obviously ... But that's a far cry from saying that you can't manipulate the tone of a solid body electric the same way. You can. Pick the same spot on the same string and change the angle of the pick. Then move it closer to the bridge. Then to the neck. Then louder ... Then softer. Rest stroke w the pick... Free stroke. That's before tou even touch a knob ... Let a alone switch guitars.
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For better or worse, I play quite differently depending on instrument. I own about 30 instruments and I play differently on every single one of them. Even between my 2 strats I'll play slightly differently. It all boils down to the sound the instrument produces. The SCN's in my Am Deluxe Strat are darker/muddier than the Fralin Vintage Hots in my Am Standard. They both have different tremolo systems which affects the tone/sustain envelope. They interact differently with my various fuzz boxes as well, being either smoother or spikier with different hot spots. Same thing with my archtops, gypsy guitars, teles, classical, steel guitars, banjos and basses.
However, I'm not a stylistic chameleon. Even though I play differently on each instrument/amp/pedal combo, it's still within the general umbrella of my playing style. There is always a certain core thread of my personality coming through. It's like each instrument is a heavy-handed filter and will only allow certain sounds/techniques/approaches through. If I'm playing my gypsy guitar, I really can't seem to play blues worth a damn, but on strat, blues is just fine. My most flexible guitar is my Tele with Lollar Special T's. I can play most styles with it, and it seems to adapt to different techniques better than most of my other guitars, so it's my favored electric. But if I want to play classical, only my classical will do. Likewise with gypsy, only my gypsy guitar is right. For rock, I prefer my strats though I can make due ok with a tele. My archtops completely suck for rock, and some of them are good for swing but not jazz while others can pinch hit in either style.
Frankly I prefer it this way. On the opposite end of the spectrum, one of my bandmates sounds the same regardless of the instrument he plays -- be it archtop, gyspy, flattop, strat, etc. The instrument he plays doesn't matter to him, only the style.
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Tele is a great guitar but not easy for jazz . You can get on it ala "jazz sound" but it is not the same as my semi-hollow Ibanez as-200. I mean I feel more comfortable on semi-hollow Ibanez playing jazz standards. I still work on my Tele.
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