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    So someone local is selling this very strange semi-hollow for about 500 bucks. Does anyone know what the heck I'm looking at here?












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  3. #52

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    With all of that ornamentation it makes me think that it's a "hot" guitar. If the hardware, tone and playability are to your liking, and you like the design it could be a good deal (if not stolen).

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    I think it's spectacularly ugly, but in an enchanting way. It's just like all the Fiats we've had in our house. I got an appointment to try it at 9 pm.

    The wood and the burst is so nice that I suspect that it could be a modified "name-brand" guitar. The headstock looks very much like a local luthier's work. Can't wait to try it.
    Last edited by mr quick; 03-17-2015 at 12:58 PM.

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    fun & funky guitar

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    Played it. Loved the tone and feel. Want it, have 30 minutes to decide. Can't reach my father (the guitar expert) on the phone. Ai ai ai.

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    Al Br I have played the Musician Pro and the Double cut from Prestige, I like them real well. The double cut played as well as my ES335 I had and sold kick my butt. Prestige seems to like Seymour Duncan pickups, they put the 59/JB set up in all I have ever seen. For the fun in my Prestige I loaded it with TV Jones humbuckers for the fun of it. That lasted for about 6 months. I had a new set of Dimarzio 36th anniversary's so I just put them back in it and love them. The Seymour sound great also. As good are better quality as Gibson and your not paying for that name. And all of them have Grover tuners. They make a bass I am lusting for now, and their acoustic guitars are awesome.

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    I was told the guitar is Japanese. The seller was an Ibanez collector.

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    I didn't buy it... Still looking =(

    My guitar technician has offered to order an Ibanez AS93, anyone familiar with those?


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    I doubt the Ibanez AS93 would give you anything more than the Epiphones, in either tone or credibility. Don't get me wrong, it is a fine guitar for the price and I liked mine enough to swap it for the AS153, which has more bling, better materials and better pups - although these days it isn't clear what pups Ibanez are putting on all their guitars as they seemed to have deliberately changed the nomenclature to confuse us. You can pay a little more again for the cheaper of the Scofield models. It may or may not buy you a little more jazz cred, but it really only differs from the AS153 in the shape of the headstock. Although it has been said, by those who have tried both, that the pickups have a slightly different voice.

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    Alright, thanks for the feedback. How are Scofield guitars in versatility? The guitar would be used primarily for funk, rock, and fusion(distortion). I guess one could say I'm looking for a Carlton tone.

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    Anyone know anything about ES 139's? I've tried the one they have at the local guitar shop... Amazing guitar, second best Gibson I've ever played. Can't find anything on them online...

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    I agree when a guitar sound is too processed you don't even know what is being played except to look at the brand of guitar . Whats wrong with a straight guitar straight into an amp ?

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    They were a limited run model that was sold through a small number of dealers. It seems like it's basically the love child of a Les Paul and an ES 137 (or maybe an ES 135, which had a lighter center block than an ES 137 with fewer knobs. Looks like a pretty cool guitar.

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    So they're no longer made? I should get on that...

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    Washburns have gotten some good reviews for their price range. Comparable would be the Gibson/Epiphone Es345, B.B. King model. The Epiphone goes around $650 (U.S.). add 2000 to that and you have the Gibson. Difference is you have a nice wide range of tone settings available with either of the two ES-345's. There are videos available of the two models being played and the musician goes thru the different tone settings to give you an idea. Videos can be found on Youtube.
    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marwin Moody
    What about Washburn's HB45WHK? Found it for sale in EU but no videos of it anywhere =(

    I am totally for non-f-hole now.

    looks kind of like a fender esprit
    Has the nature of your quest changed from "help me find an affordable guitar that some of the silly people I deal with won't call 'cheap' to just "help me find an affordable guitar"? If not, and you're still on the original quest, Washburn is probably not the answer. Nice guitars, but not further up-market than Epiphones.

    Fender Esprits are chambered solibodies; that Washburn is a semi-hollow without f-holes, so they're actually quite different in concept (though, you never know, they might sound much the same). If your search is expanding to include chambered solid-bodies, Gibson has made several that are reasonably abundant on the used market, and some are quite cheap (for Gibsons). Look for a Les Paul Studio DC (Gibson's answer to PRS in the late 90s). I had one for many years; they sell (and I sold mine) for well south of $1000. IMO/E not great for jazz because the 24-fret neck pushes the neck pick-up too far toward the bridge and it doesn't get a classic Gibson neck-pickup sound. But if you don't plan on playing jazz with it, worth a shot.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marwin Moody
    I have both an Epi Dot and a Sheraton.

    I know it's stupid but I'd like a "name-brand", because I'm tired of the skepticism of amateurs (in regard to Epiphone).
    In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with Epiphone, I own an ES-335 Limited Pro in Iced tea, and it's a great guitar! How well one plays is more important than what brand you play, and the amateurs you speak of probably wouldn't be able to hear the difference.

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    Hello Gary, I too have an Epipiphone MasterBilt DR-500mce, how do you like it? I really like it! I also own an Epiphone ES-335 Limited Pro in Iced Tea, which is nice for a newbie like me. I checked out Prestige from Canada, and if I ever get good enough to justify one I may buy one! Thanks for mentioning Prestige!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Has the nature of your quest changed from "help me find an affordable guitar that some of the silly people I deal with won't call 'cheap' to just "help me find an affordable guitar"? If not, and you're still on the original quest, Washburn is probably not the answer. Nice guitars, but not further up-market than Epiphones.

    Fender Esprits are chambered solibodies; that Washburn is a semi-hollow without f-holes, so they're actually quite different in concept (though, you never know, they might sound much the same). If your search is expanding to include chambered solid-bodies, Gibson has made several that are reasonably abundant on the used market, and some are quite cheap (for Gibsons). Look for a Les Paul Studio DC (Gibson's answer to PRS in the late 90s). I had one for many years; they sell (and I sold mine) for well south of $1000. IMO/E not great for jazz because the 24-fret neck pushes the neck pick-up too far toward the bridge and it doesn't get a classic Gibson neck-pickup sound. But if you don't plan on playing jazz with it, worth a shot.

    John
    Alright, will keep an eye out. The former "quest" is the one I am on. Washburn is very obscure here so I thought "maybe" but if you're saying it's pretty much Epiphone in sound and feel then I guess it is a dead idea. Thanks for the feedback!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marwin Moody
    Alright, will keep an eye out. The former "quest" is the one I am on. Washburn is very obscure here so I thought "maybe" but if you're saying it's pretty much Epiphone in sound and feel then I guess it is a dead idea. Thanks for the feedback!
    I'm saying that Washburn occupies a similar prestige and price niche to Epiphone. There's also a similar history of a one-time American brand being applied to guitars made first in Japan, then Korea, and now other parts of Asia. Many of their guitars are actually quite nice, as are many Epiphones. At one point, their semis were pretty much the same thing as the Artstar-series Ibanezes, and like all of these brands, a lot of them were made by Samick, Peerless, and Cort.

    John

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    Save $ 2000,00: $ 275,00 ES-335 sounds just like a $ 2275,00 ES-335

    The basic construction, type of wood and pickups make the sound.


  23. #72

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    Peerless made Epiphone Emperor Regent. Under $800 USD all day long.


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    Thanks guys. How fragile is a semi hollow/hollow body guitar? Are those guitars more fragile (and thus would require more consideration when buying used), then solid body guitars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    At some point I stumbled on some recordings of him doing real music, rather than equipment demos. He's Ok, certainly solid at what he does, but I don't think Robben Ford is worried. I do find it funny that he makes everything sound the same (even funnier, he has a video attempting to disprove that he the he makes them all sound the same
    ). But I shouldn't criticize. He's out there trying to make a living.

    John
    I noticed that he makes every Guitar sound similar before I heard the complaint...lol.

    Another one who does that is Greg Koch .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertkoa
    I noticed that he makes every Guitar sound similar before I heard the complaint...lol.

    Another one who does that is Greg Koch .
    Yes, and Koch gets a super bright tone on everything that I find makes very difficult to evaluate guitars. But he's kind of amusing.

    John.