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    This might be a dumb question but...If you have a cheap archtop that you love...has two pickups but you only use the neck...would it be stupid to remove the bridge pup and even cover the hole with a peice of appropriate wood??? And along the same lines what about converting the pickup openings to take dogeared p90's???

    Keep in mind this is a guitar you paid 300ish (Korean Epi) and you are not that concerned with resale.

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    Why bother? It would do nothing but look hokey and destroy resale value. And as far as the P90s, they make P90s that fir in HB rings.

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    You are probably right, but it does add weight, and maybe the tone would change ever so slightly with it removed. I was thinking just tack glue a fitted piece in the hole or leave it open. And maybe you missed what I said about not being concerned with resale value on a $350 dollar guitar. More like a fun tinkering project.

    Anyway, yes I'm aware of the hum-sized p90's that drop right in. I like the look and tone of the vintage wound dogear p90's. Hence wondering if anyone has any experience with changing the humbucker opening to accomodate a dogeared p90

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    Friend, you've made your mind up so why waste peoples time asking advice here! Do it!!....

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    Actually I have not made my mind up. I'm curious is all. If I get this guitar in question it's more likely that I will put p94's or something like that in there. Just curious if anyone has done what I was thinking about doing. Sorry for wasting people's time Lol

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    I saw a few videos of a great fingerstyle player playing a blue Ibanez, looked like he removed the bridge pup and covered it with tape. (maybe Jake Reichbart sp?)

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    Great picture of Pat! I didn't know the pickup was gone on his 175. I always thought he added some synth stuff to it or something like that. Pretty beat to hell. Must be early/mid 80's. When you listen way back to Bright Size Life that 175 had such a pure tone, it's incredible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    Here's someone who removed the bridge pickup. Don't know what happened to him.


    duct tape crack repair, check
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    Quote Originally Posted by friendofjaco
    Actually I have not made my mind up. I'm curious is all. If I get this guitar in question it's more likely that I will put p94's or something like that in there. Just curious if anyone has done what I was thinking about doing. Sorry for wasting people's time Lol
    I did actually do that on a guitar once, I made a plate from a scratchplate blank and fitted it over the hole, I also removed the toggle switch and bridge volume and tone. It did change the the sound slightly but eventually I refitted the pickup and controls and restored the guitar to original condition. What I do these days is lower the bridge pickups right down away from the strings and just not use them.

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    I guess Pat found out what a PAF fetches on ebay and since he didn't use it anyway.........

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    I removed my bridge pickup, replaced the neck with a kent armstrong p90(humbucker sized). I then made a pickup over out of a piece of wood I found at a craft store, and stained it black. It looks good, and every time I point it out to someone they tell me they didn't even notice. If you search back through my posts i'm sure i posted a picture of it at some point.

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    I've thought about doing this on my Washburn to simplify the wiring (~$500 guitar that I'll probably never sell). Other than just eliminating weight and making me feel like even more of a purist, I can't really think of a good reason to do it, so I never get past idle speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friendofjaco
    This might be a dumb question but...If you have a cheap archtop that you love...has two pickups but you only use the neck...would it be stupid to remove the bridge pup and even cover the hole with a peice of appropriate wood??? And along the same lines what about converting the pickup openings to take dogeared p90's???

    Keep in mind this is a guitar you paid 300ish (Korean Epi) and you are not that concerned with resale.
    I have a cheapo Joe Pass that I put a set of cheapo used Seymour Duncan Phat Cats in. Those pickups are P-90-ish design in humbucker mounts and get you nearer the true P-90 sound. For me, the value of having the bridge Phat Cat is the humbucking effect when both are selected. Just turn down the volume of the bridge pickup and you have a hiss-free neck tone.

    Now if you bound and determined to have a neck pickup-only Korean Epi, then the Zephyr Regent is for you. Sadly, Epiphone does not make this model any more and they seem to be scarce on the used market. I would really like to get one made in the Peerless factory but the prices seem to be increasing.

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    I doubt it will change the tone much. I did something similar once and regretted it. It's not about resale, just about mangling up an instrument for no useful purpose. Here's one thing to consider: I did a sub gig last year for a friend in a medium sized venue. It was a old school Blues gig. I took a 50s Gibson with me, it looked like a real Blues ax. After two songs, the selector switch malfunctioned and the neck pickup went dead. I did the whole gig with the bridge pickup. I backed off the treble on the amp a bit, it sounded fine. If I had brought one of my single pickup guitars, I couldn't have done the gig ... would have left my buddy hangin with just Bass and Drums. Like a gunfighter with two sixshooters, if one jams, the other is right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFour00
    If I had brought one of my single pickup guitars, I couldn't have done the gig ...
    But then you wouldn't have had a selector switch to go bad! :-D

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    The switch went bad because the neck pickup wire was twisted around it ... I had no idea. A single pickup could as well have had a wire issue. But you're right, that particular problem was due to the nature of the two pickup guitar. I imagine that if you were on the road and had an actual pickup wire break at the pickup (I've had that happen, but I had a spare guitar), you could switch pickups with a screwdriver and a cheap soldering iron. At least you'd have a spare pickup right there.

    Good catch on the selector switch, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Jay
    I guess Pat found out what a PAF fetches on ebay and since he didn't use it anyway.........
    Actually, he added the bridge pickup after the fact and didnt like it.. the 175 was originally a single pickup model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamBooka
    Actually, he added the bridge pickup after the fact and didnt like it.. the 175 was originally a single pickup model.
    You are right, I even knew that, but I forgot. But I wasn't being very serious of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Jay
    You are right, I even knew that, but I forgot. But I wasn't being very serious of course.
    You can tell it was originally a single p/u because the filled whole for the toggle is on the cutaway, instead of the normal place on the upper bout.
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