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What,s the correct way to position these pedals ..ie, compressor -reverb - delay .working from guitar to amp..thanks.
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04-08-2014 09:53 AM
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I'd do guitar -> compressor -> delay -> reverb -> amp, but I've never had a compressor.
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Thank,s , that,s the way I have them ,I was wanting confirmation ....hb
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If you have an effects loop try running your time delay pedals in there. Compressor before input.
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conventional wisdom seems to suggest (for whatever is applicable):
wah -> compressor -> (booster) -> dirt pedals -> chorus -> delay -> reverb -> (booster) -> amp
if you have one then everything after the dirt pedals is best put into the effects loop. Some people have the compressor after dirt, some have eq pedals before or after the dirt pedals or at the very end. That is worth experimenting with.
A booster at the end of the chain makes you just louder (in case your amp has enough clean headroom, otherwise it works similar to the booster in front of the dirt pedal). A booster in the effects loop will make you just louder.
If you have a long signal chain a buffer is definitely recommended (... didn't believe it until I experienced it with a line driver - spectacular improvement in tone). A booster in front of your dirt pedal will basically increase gain and possible change the tonality a bit.
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Dirt? Who here uses dirt?
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pssst (don't tell anyone
Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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Could a booster like xotic RC be placed instead of a buffer, or do they have a completely different function? Originally Posted by FrankLearns
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Often these things have dual functions. Mine is the MXR MC 401 line driver/booster which is brilliant in both compartments - it is an absolutely transparent booster and placed at the beginning of the chain it really prevents signal loss while being completely quiet. I guess a person with more intimate electronics knowledge will be able to give a better explanation what these things actually do to the impedance.
As far as I know the Xotic AC and RC boosters color the tone quite a bit but I haven't tried the AC or RC boosters myself. I have a Xotic XP booster in front of my dirt pedals and like quite a bit what it does. It definitely colors the tone pretty strongly and I am not sure that it would be my first choice for jazz. A great little booster with a very pleasant ever so slight tone coloring is the TC electronics mini spark booster.
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+1. I have the non-mini version and it's a great way to stomp and get a clean boost. I tend to use its toggle set at Fat or Mids for the sake of variety of its EQ change. Originally Posted by FrankLearns
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played a 70's Fender deluxe today with the verb up and the trem on.
the verb is before the trem which sounds great
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A buffer takes a high impedance signal and converts into it low impedance. Most pedals these days do this... Cable high end loss only occurs if you have a lot of cable signal and have all pedals in true bypass (all pedals before the amp, fx loop doesn't count). Originally Posted by Jazz_175
In my case I use delay and reverb in the loop which means only distortion, tuner and parametric eq go in front. When I don't need the parametric I still use it with just the gain knob to cut the sound instead of using the volume control on the guitar. Because the gain is post-buffer on the pedal I loose much less highs.
The RC will work fine as a buffer, eq and booster (or gain cutter). It does not change the tone if set flat... Mine is a clone (with better components than the original and some mods I requested) but I like it more than the Spark. The Spark has the mid settings which are nice though... my tech will add that switch to my RC
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Sheesh. I do. Although I'm not really here am I? Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
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Well . . . you do seem to be back, don't you? Nice to see you here again! You have a lot to contribute. Originally Posted by henryrobinett
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On my site is a 12-pg article by Jon Chappell called "A Guitarist's Guide to Effects - How to Categorize and Order the Boxes in Your Signal Chain". It not only suggests a specific order, depending on what pedals you want to have in the chain, but shows you how to group pedals into types of effects, and what this general order should be. Here's a link to the article: http://howardblackmusic.com/guitaristGuide2Effects.pdf
Howard
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Chappell gets off to a bad start. Originally Posted by cfthb
Then why are we pondering it?Most guitarists have an intuitive sense as to where basic effects should go in
their signal chain.
Why would you naturally do that? Doesn't it depend on how you want it to sound? Doesn't it depend on what you're trying to accomplish with the delay? If you want an echo of the noisy effect do it one way. If you want a non-noisy ambience around the noisy attack do it the other way.If you have two pedals, a distortion unit and a digital delay,you would naturally put the distortion before the delay (the guitar goes into the
distortion, the distortion into the delay, and the delay into the amp).
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Actually that article is OK, basically useful.
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I own both. I agree on the AC booster coloring the tone (it's an overdrive after all), but I think the RC booster, when used with zero gain is a pretty transparent boost. Originally Posted by FrankLearns
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True, but in order to use an RC Booster as a buffer, it must be swiched on Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
There are many pedals that always present a buffered signal when in the signal path (i.e. many non-true bypass pedals.) However, not all buffers are created equal. The RC works as a really good buffer, but it's kinda a waste of it's EQ and boost functions to do so. I personally hate the buffers in Boss pedals and avoid them completely. Oddly enough, the first buffer on my board is an EHX Stereo Electric Mistress. It has a fine buffer in it and is non-true bypass so it's always on. I also like the buffers in Tech21 pedals.
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True, the pedal must be on Originally Posted by D.G.
True, but in order to use an RC Booster as a buffer, it must be swiched on There are many pedals that always present a buffered signal when in the signal path (i.e. many non-true bypass pedals.) However, not all buffers are created equal. The RC works as a really good buffer, but it's kinda a waste of it's EQ and boost functions to do so. I personally hate the buffers in Boss pedals and avoid them completely. Oddly enough, the first buffer on my board is an EHX Stereo Electric Mistress. It has a fine buffer in it and is non-true bypass so it's always on. I also like the buffers in Tech21 pedals. Should have been more clear... I agree with not all buffers being equal and I also hate Boss buffers! Some pedals, like the Shape EQ, have true bypass and buffer mode. I agree with you that it's a waste to get an RC Booster just as a buffer but most buffer only pedals are inexplicably expensive... I guess most people would find the eq or the gain / volume controls useful on a clean platform. The EQ is VERY good imo...
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