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Yes to PP. Or u can opt to leave the headstock blank...it's your choice. Congrats!
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08-18-2014 04:02 AM
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Bluedawg.. paypal is the way to go. 50% down and the rest when you approve the pictures of the final guitar before they ship. Also the headstock can be script lettering or a simple picture like the one I use on this account. Nice opportunity to be creative. They might even be able to do a decent rendition of the puppy.
$1350 actually sounds just a little high. Maybe we should talk about points of contact?
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$1350.00 does seem a little high. Please tell us what you ordered and what specific extras you asked for. Also what country do you live in ?? 2 months is about right, actually it's a little quick, mine took 11 weeks or so including travel time to me via EMS...
Very interested to hear what you're considering, also if you can supply a LINK to the actual item it saves all of us rooting around and guessing. Makes us more informed repliers.
Mike
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Yes, mine will be USD 1,150, and that's with an upgraded wood package. Mind you, I placed my order through Lora, previously at Yunzhi but now at Yolanda team. Also the total build time for mine will be closer to 16 weeks, but I suspect that Lora's operation is smaller than Yunzhi (plus I specified extra drying time for the finish, on Spook's recommendation). Anyway, good luck with it. The process is half the fun...
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It seems as if Yunzhi/Yolandteam's can be a bit habit forming. I've just commissioned another through Lora. This time a blonde (honey) 17" oval-hole guitar. Hoping it comes out as great as the first.
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I haven't ordered anything, yet. All I did was query their web site via the Alibaba messaging that the web site uses ... at least the web site that I found.
I am interested in their copy of the Monteleone Grand Artist guitar which is based on the classic mandolin design with the scroll on the upper left bout. Considering the cost of a Monteleone and the complicated design ... and the 18 inch body ... $1350 doesn't sound too crazy.
I'm in the USofA in Arizona.
I received the quote from Jennifer at Yunzhi and I also got a notice from Lora. So I'll check both options before commiting to anything.
It would be cool to do the puppy on the headstock ..... he passed away last December .. he was 14.5 years old and is greatly missed .... We have two new westie pups in training so the sound of little paws are still heard throughout the house
Thanks for the repliesLast edited by Bluedawg; 08-18-2014 at 12:33 PM.
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sorry to hear of your friend's passing.
they've been featuring that model on feebay for the past 3-4 months. Last I heard, there was no case to fit an 18" version of that guitar...in fact, last I heard, getting 18" cases at all is a special order job for them...Lora suggested that some 9 or so months back...Sure, they pack an archtop for shipment like no other....but still, if I'm shipping a guitar, especially from that distance, I want it nestled in a case...end of story. Good luck....nice to see you being brave!
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Yeah, I see the Yunzhi mandolin style guitar on ebay ...
They said they didn't have any in stock
I'll have to query them about the case. I wonder if a standard Super 400 style case would fit these.
We'll see ...
I'm usually a guitar snob who wants American made stuff ....
but I already have more Gibson archtops than a sane person should own
the chinese are doing some of the cool designs that I could not afford from an American maker and their quality is also increasing
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Talk to Spook10, he ordered one of those Mandolin style guitars. He might have some suggestions as to how to have the guitar shipped.
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Interesting.. I'm in the middle of spec'ing an oval hole as well. Looking for a pure acoustic.
Originally Posted by jlmorgan84
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Yea.. the mando archtop costs more. Still cheap when you consider the extra work and wood (takes some long boards) that goes into it. It's worked out to be quite a good guitar. Not a lot different in sound from a standard 18" but a lot more fun. The only negative comments you'll get are online. Otherwise folks just want to play it and understand the difference between a Chinese copy and an original. Thing is, the workmanship is amazing for a copy.
They do have a case for for the mando guitar they came up with at the last minute. They gave me one even though I agreed to take it without a case. Of course, it's not a very nice case, but it's a case and they didn't even charge me for it (regular customer perk).
I still haven't figured out the relationship between Jennifer and Lora. Lora has her own 'brokerage' in Yolanda Team. I'm currently working with her for the first time on an oval hole model. She's very thorough and I'm pretty impressed. The oval hole is not a Yunzhi.. that should be interesting as well. Still, Jennifer works directly for Yunzhi which is what I'm used to. We'll see how that all sorts out.
And I think a Westie headstock inlay on any guitar would be pretty cool.
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Hi, Everyone?
Lora is here, I got that some members still are curious my position.
I start to doing international business from 2005, and I as a saler and translater from the end of 2010 in yunzhi, and start to learn jazz guitar's knowledge from the customers and the workers. and left yunzhi in March 2014. From the past 3years and half, I tried my best to help my customers get a dream guitar and did my best to solve the issue as much as I can.
Why I choose to work with the luthiers who left yunzhi but not yunzhi which I worked for 3years?
1st, I ,be your hands in China, I will pay more attention on the skills . For the luthiers who left yunzhi, as I mentioned before, they were ever worked in Eastman and yunzhi as pioneers.The workers in yunzhi now all learned from my luthiers. and carving sound board, my luthier Mr Wu will knock every board to adjust the sound personally. The Binding, their works is very good, there is no gaps, the binding is very tight and neat. For painting and polishing, they have more than 10years experiences and the lacquer we will try to make as thin as possible.
2nd, Quality control, Before ship the guitar, my luthiers will check the guitar first and then I will also check the quality. If any detail is not good, I will ask my luthiers to fix it.Even sometimes, it took more time, but quality control for customers is my job.
3rd, actually, most of yunzhi model designed by my luthiers, from the begining yunzhi start to make jazz guitar , my luthier Mr Wu is partner of yunzhi's boss, he has technic skills. but for 5years past, they didn't get nothing only the salary as workers. That is the important reason why the luthiers left yunzhi and start their own workshop from 2013.
For yunzhi, Actually I don't want say any bad words ,what I can say, I am in China, and know my luthiers and yunzhi both for some years, I know who is worth for my choice.
I am presentative for Mr Wu and some other luthiers work together with Mr Wu now and translate for him for the orders and help him to let more and more customers know him and his works on the guitars.
Any way, I am always here for you. Any questions, I would like to answer for you.
We also can make custom guitar for you under your requests.
Your friend
Lora
PS Jennifer is my former colleague in yunzhi before. She worked in Yunzhi for nearly 1years and left yunzhi the end of 2013, even some new one works in Yunzhi , but they didn't change their name. Same as Zoey, even Zoey left yunzhi, but the workers there also using Zoey's name sending emails. I think that Jennifer is another saler or workers in yunzhi.
Me, Presentative for Mr Wu and help them to sell the guitars and let more and more guitar players know Mr Wu and his guitars. hotman brand.
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Great to see you here Ms. Lora, and by the way the sonogram was fantastic, you must be so excited for your baby !! It's good you explained what is going on there, people were wondering who was writing them as Jennifer and Zoey.
All the best
Mike
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Hi, Mike,
Thanks for your following, yes , when I saw the sonagram, very excited. this is my first baby. ^.^
and the worker who used jennifer and Zoey's name, I am not sure. maybe the one who is secretary of the yunzhi's boss. i don't know her english name.
Hope everything goes well there.
Yours
Lora
Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
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Thanks Lora for the explanation, it clears many things up and i now understand what was unclear before, the use of former employee's names, Mr Wu's skills, etc...
Best wishes for the future and i sure will call you for another guitar !
Peace
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Hi, Paul,
How are you?
Thanks for your supporting for my jobs in the past and in the future. It is my pleasure to make you more clear what happened in yunzhi and Mr wu who I worked with now.
Yours
Lora
Originally Posted by xuoham
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Working on an order for a Mr. Wu guitar now. Will be interesting to compare it to my Yunzhi's for the forum.
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Just thinking, "Mr Wu" would have been a cool guitar brand name, kind of old 60's tv series kind malefic doctor ...
or like the Steely Dan lyrics on "Glamour Profession", "Bogota Meet me at midnight at Mr. Chow Szechuan dumplings after the deal...".
... and actually insisting on the Chinese identity instead of trying to sound anglo-saxon.
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Ah, Yes, that is good idea. Maybe we will promote some special model under Mr Wu brand in near future.
Originally Posted by xuoham
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One Mr Wu ready to ship any day now...
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How long do they take and what's a ballpark price to have one made?
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Has anyone here been able to compare the work of Yunzhi post the labor team split with the new Yolanda guitars? I realize it's not easy for Lora to comment on the guitars being involved with both parties now in competition with one another.
I'm not talking pre split, when the former Eastman team worked as one at Yunzhi, I'm curious about how the split has effected the building style or any aspect of the guitars from any point in production. I'm sure both or all guitars from either place will look good, be a bargain and good words will be exchanged all around, but I am curious. Has the break up of a single team into two competing entities effected any aspect of either company?
What does the loss of a master luthier mean to a company? What does a new company that is a fraction of a once unified team mean?
Is anyone in a position to compare the workmanship of these competing and remarkable instruments?
David
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David, I don't think the luthiers at the old Yunzhi left all at once so the changes were gradual.
You ask a very tough and detailed question, it would take someone who bought Eastman, then the early Yunzhi, then the later Yunzhi and now Mr. Wu's TeamYolanda to answer it. Just keep watching this forum you will eventually get your answer...
I have my original Yunzhi John Pisano in the shop, getting that fatter jazz guitar neck carved down a little bit (using my Ibanez AS103 as the guide for size/shape), we got a Schatten volume and tone control and a Bartolini 5J and stair step pick guard to install. Thanks to summer vacations it's taking them a while to get at it. I hear it might be next weekend. When I stopped in the shop to check the tech got all the parts out and opened the case to my Yunzhi Pisano, gotta admit my heart skipped a beat when I saw it, so doggone pretty. Reminded me of when I met my wife for the first time. Can't wait to get that one back. Think my next piece will be a 17 inch version of the John Pisano r880 by Mr. Wu's team with a floater, probably another Bartolini 5J. I like that 17 inch lower bout, I'm a big guy and the Pisano size almost feels small on me. LOL...
Yunzhi 810, old Eastman 810 Prototype, Eastman T146 with Seth Lovers
Back shot of the Three Amigos. And below, an indoor shot of the Yunzhi 810 copy, the dark stain is hard to get good grain shots of, this is about as good as I could do. Breath taking guitar.
Last edited by BigMikeinNJ; 08-31-2014 at 11:58 AM.
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Nils,
Your Mr Wu looks amazing, love the wood they used to gussy up the headstock. Truly lovely.
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I suspect that the first guitar I ordered from Lora was a "Yolandateam" (Mr. Wu), though at the time i didn't know they were two different companies and thought I was ordering a "Yunzhi." It's a great guitar, well built and well-finished.
I suspect with both companies you are talking about multiple builders, but essentially the same design and build-process. I would think given the same design and construction methods variations in wood and fit/finish would make them essentially the same, but of course I could be wrong.
I was happy enough with my Yolandateam guitar that I ordered another, though I would have no qualms about ordering a Yunzhi. FYI I got a quote from both on the new guitar and the Yolandateam was about $50 cheaper, so not a significant difference in price for me.
-Jim
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