Henriksen JazzAmp 110 vs Quilter MicroPro 10"

[PaulW10]

i would never discourage anyone from doing business with a legitimate company and I don't doubt that Longways experience was excellent.

I just want to emphasize, at the expense of repeating myself, that Severson sells the same amp but, at least when I bought mine, at a savings of about $150 less than the Quilter factory itself. In addition, while the timing of the arrangement didn't allow this advantage for me (I had to wait an extra 2 days while the amp was shipped from Quilter to Severson), I believe he gets them drop shipped directly from the factory again. At least he used to. It's possible that he got that service restored. You should call and check if time is an issue.

I bought my MicroPro 8" from Rich 18 months ago or so. A great experience. It was a couple hundred less as it was a restock.

I just ordered the 12" extension cabinet and it's on the way, but not from Rich (I didn't know he was selling Quilter again. Darn.)

Anyway, I did have a Henricksen 110 for awhile but sold it.

With the Quilter you can dial up a really nice jazz tone (any guitar tone for that matter), but one of the things I really love about it is its Channel 1 which doubles as a p.a. I can plug my Cervantes nylon (with Baggs classical mike pickup) and provide the clean tone it needs and leave my archtop plugged into channel 2. It's versatility is incredible. I think the 12" cabinet is going to make it truly amazing.

[croth]

Same explanation from Fender about tje Jazzmaster Ultralight (250w power with a 100w speaker). SS amp makers like to inflate their watts and speaker manufacters like to deflate theirs. Makes sense.

We are generally agreed. However, I think that when quality amp manufacturer's talk about power, they are generally using the RMS system, which I think is a repeatable measurement and not easily inflatable. Stereo makers who use Peak Power or Music Power are probably misleading their consumers with inflated values.

Also, just because you turn the volume control all the way up doesn't necessarily mean that you're sending the entire 100w to the speaker. That may not happen unless you overdrive the front end (pre-amp) of the amp. But now I'm entering waters that are above my head.

In my (albeit limited) experience with Fender tube amps, I believe that the speakers were generally rated a little bit above the power rating of the amp. I know I put a 50w Weber in my '67 Princeton Reverb which I think is rated at 15-22w. My only hesitation is that it added to the weight of the amp. But I doubt I'll ever have to worry about blowing that speaker.

[Skip Ellis]

I always go overboard - I use a 350W SiCA with my 200 watt MB200. I used to put 12" JBL's & EV's in Princetons. I also once had a BF Twin with 2 EV's in it - neat amp but I couldn't pick it up!

[Silentwiz]

Really can't go wrong with Quilter. I have the MP200 10" combo and I use it for just about everything these days.

[drbhrb]

I recently got a Quilter Aviator 12 and I'm really digging it. So far it seems to be the perfect amp and has more power than I'd ever need considering it can double its power with an ext cab.

[croth]

Same explanation from Fender about tje Jazzmaster Ultralight (250w power with a 100w speaker). SS amp makers like to inflate their watts and speaker manufacters like to deflate theirs. Makes sense.

We are generally agreed. However, I think that when quality amp manufacturer's talk about power, they are generally using the RMS system, which I think is a repeatable measurement and not easily inflatable. Stereo makers who use Peak Power or Music Power are probably misleading their consumers with inflated values.

Also, just because you turn the volume control all the way up doesn't necessarily mean that your sending the entire 100w to the speaker. That may not happen unless you overdrive the front end (pre-amp) of the amp. But now I'm entering waters that are above my head.

In my (albeit limited) experience with Fender tube amps, I believe that the speakers were generally rated a little bit above the power rating of the amp. I know I put a 25w Weber in my '67 Princeton Reverb which I think is rated at 15-22w.

[Woody Sound]

Here's a great demo of the MicroPro. You can really hear the nuances of the amp

[croth]

Very nice demo. Good song too. Thanks for posting.

[ChrisDowning]

If you are in the market for a top quality amp like the Heriksen you should be trying an AER amp from Germany. i heard one last year and was just blown away with how good it sounds. Its the only amp I would consider if I was dumping my DeLuxe Reverb which feels like ten times the weight!!

[croth]

I played with a bass player using a small AER yesterday. It did indeed sound good.

Your post, though, did inspire me to say that one listen does not a recommendation make. I've found that, most of the time, it is the player that makes the amp (or guitar) sound good.

I doubt that an AER is going to make any particular player sound better than (s)he does with a Henriksen, Quilter, Cube, or a tube amp like a Deluxe Reverb. I can promise you that I sound equally mediocre on all of them... :-)

[ChrisDowning]

Yes I agree. It is interesting how much we are influenced by what other players use. Manufacturers know this and so look for influential players to showcase their amps and guitars. Ditto - to an audience I probably sound just as good or bad through an expensive tube amp, Henriksen and Quilter, as a Roland Cube60 and an Ibanez. Choice of amp probably is all about an inner dialogue and self esteem earlier in your playing cycle. But you do eventually get to a point where you feel the music is the most important component and play through whatever works (and whatever stays inside your budget when you are a pro trying to make a living.)

If I were choosing now, I would not buy a tube amp, but I would go for the best - a compromise will have you back buying again in a few years. A quality amp will last a lifetime - look at it like this $2000 is 57c a day for ten years - and if you keep your amp (like my DeLuxe) for 30 years that's just 18c - don't tell me you can't find 18c a day by cutting something out of your weekly spend!