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Nice review croth.
Overall it seems pretty apples/oranges to me. The amps go after different sounds entirely...what they share in common is small size/weight to loudness ratio.
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10-28-2014 10:24 AM
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Thank you Mr. Beaumont.
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
While I will agree with you in principle, I will take the opportunity to point out that the Quilter, switched to its Clean channel (channel 1) probably doesn't sound much different than the Henriksen, both reproducing the sound of the instrument without coloration, though I will qualify my statement by reminding everyone that I've already said that I'm not good at distinctions like "better" or "worse", just "different". In this case, I'd have to say they are "equivalent" in their clean sound.
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Thanks for all the new information and opinions on the amps. I decided to order the Henriksen 112 ER. The Henriksen is recommended and used by many jazz players, has been around awhile and has a good reputation. The Quilter website reviews are almost all by rock or metal non jazz players and I don't need those effects. I'm sure the Quilter is a fine amp but I don't care about portability as this amp will probably only be used at home, will be my only amp, and hopefully last purchase. The Henriksen seems the best choice for me as it is designed and dedicated for a jazz tone. I watched a video review of the Henriksen on YouTube by GuitarThai . At 8:08 there is a clear view and demonstration of the EQ controls effects on the tone and I can hear the different qualities in the single notes which makes me think it would be good for getting rid of the boominess in the bass on my 1951 Epiphone Zephyr Regent. I also like the looks of the Henriksen better, although it has no bearing on the sound.
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Not sure if you've already pulled the trigger, but one thing to consider for home use is that larger speakers in smaller rooms tend to get feedback-y. So if you're only using at home - well, if it was me, I'd definitely go for the 10". Originally Posted by zephyrregent
(and also, out of coincidence last night I was speaking to a gigging pro and he was saying how he wished he went for the 10" instead of his 12", for less muddiness, less feedback etc...)
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Just as a note I was not able to remove all the boominess out of my archtop with the Henriksen's stock eq and speaker. Any 2-band or 3-band baxandall eq proved to be much more effective at that (rc booster, shape eq, para driver di, etc..)
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I considered whether to get the 110 or 112 as I heard the 10" speakers were more focused. I'm used to 12" speakers in all my amps in the past and it will be in a studio the size of about two average rooms. Feedback has never been a problem. I'm old style and find it hard to believe that an 8" or 10" speaker can produce good tone without breaking up but there have been great advances in technology. I use smaller 8" speakers for home stereo and they sound fine.
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I tried both the 110 and 112 side by side before buying my JazzAmp and bought the 110. I found the 112 kind of boomy (for lack of a better word) the 110 had plenty of bass and was very defined and punchy sounding. Originally Posted by zephyrregent
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I have both the Henriksen 112 and Henriksen 110 (althought the latter in the BluesAmp config, that is with Rajin Cajun Speaker). When I play at home, just guitar and amp I usually prefer the 112.
When I play with a group I find that the 110 cuts through better.
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I do some pops concerts in a couple of orchestras a few times a year. I'm worried that all those colored lights would look silly and out of place (and a distraction) on an orchestra stage. (I suppose I could lay cloth across the top panel.) Originally Posted by Flyin' Brian
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.I would like to see them demo'ed back to back...I bet they pretty much all sound alike..
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I've owned both a JazzAmp 110 and a JazzAmp 112 for a few years now. I've posted my experiences in comparing them a number of times since then.
My recommendation for anyone trying to decide between a JazzAmp 110 and 112:
If you can, you should try both side-by-side with your own guitar(s). But - and this is important - EQ each of them individually to get the best sound you can with a given guitar; don't just set them both flat and see which one you prefer. Although the electronics are identical, the different speaker/enclosure combinations lead to somewhat different sonic characteristics.
I've never tried a Quilter, Mambo, or DV Little Jazz though I'd certainly welcome the opportunity.
However, I have this sinking feeling that I won't be able to resist the new Henriksen 'Bud': 13 pounds, 120 watts, 4 channel EQ, reverb, 6” speaker (I think), line out, and parallel speaker out; expected release date November 1, 2014. (See/hear below.)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Henrikse...ctivity_view=3
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The Bud looks promising and the vids sound good.
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Yup, it's an ugly mofo alright Originally Posted by Woody Sound
But it's a real swiss army knife of an amp, and no one has ever mentioned the lights to me unless I point them out. If you really need to disappear on the stage, a black cloth across the top panel should easily do the trick.
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Regarding Quilters: I notice that Rich Severson is selling them again, and advertising them at a reduced price. Also, CB Hill in Huntington Beach is carrying them. I think he sold a truck load of them in a very short amount of time.
I really love the sound of mine. It grows more and more on me over time. Note however addition of a B & C speaker I had installed awhile back.
Due to back/neck problems, I've been using a cheap Raines ergo guitar a lot. It still sounds great when plugged through the Quilter!
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I bought my Quilter from the Seversons and was very happy with the product and the service. I believe that what happened is that Severson doesn't actually stock the amps but had them direct shipped from Quilter in some kind of arrangement they had. At some point that arrangement broke down. I'd guess it got repaired.
Anyway, their prices for the amps are lower than some people are selling used ones for, so if you're wanting one of these, I'd definitely give them a call.
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Does anyone know a price on the 'Bud' yet? It still is not on the website - all I can find are the short demo vids.
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I asked Henriksen for an update on the bud on their Facebook page. They replied that they are now looking at Mid December. No word on price, but surely it has to be some little less than a 110? I want !!!!! Maybe Santa Claus . . .
Also, regarding Quilter, I ordered direct from factory -- no complaints, super service, very satisfied.
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Most definitely! Customer service by Quilter is amazing.
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The Quilter is a 100W/Ch amp, yet it comes with a 60W 10" or 80W 12". I don't know that much about amps, but aren't those speakers in danger of being blown?
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You're NEVER going to have the Quilter putting out 100 watts. You'll go deaf first. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
If you think about it, it would make no sense for them to put a sub standard speaker in their amps.
So the answer is basically no.
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A member here managed to blow his henriksen blues amp speaker, lot of people told that would never happen too.
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Yup, that was me. JazzAmp110 (120w RMS) with a 75w Ragin Cajun. Tried it with a humbucker-equipped semi-hollow and a Carl Martin Quattro. Amp volume at 10 O'Clock. Sounded good. Amp volume at 11 O'Clock. Sounded good and loud. Kicked on an overdrive. Sounded good and loud and dirty. Added some clean boost from the compressor. Blew the speaker. Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
I never liked the Beta 10A much, so I got an 80w Weber California to replace the Ragin Cajun rather than put the Beta back in. Sounds really good! But now if I want serious volume, I use my JazzAmp112 with the stock 250w Beta 12A (which I do like).
Addition: By the way - and I've presented this before - I prefer the 112 with my archtop, even at low volume; and I prefer the 110 with my semi-hollow, at any reasonable volume - I'm confident going up to noon (but no higher) on the volume control without effects; and either one (or both together - the Quattro has dual mono outputs) with my P90-equipped Tele, depending on the context.Last edited by Tom Karol; 11-11-2014 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Addition
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Quilter explains this seemingly contradictory issue in their FAQs. Click here Quilter Amps and then Speaker Ratings. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Apparently there's more to the matter than meets the eye.
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i would never discourage anyone from doing business with a legitimate company and I don't doubt that Longways experience was excellent. Originally Posted by Longways to Go
I just want to emphasize, at the expense of repeating myself, that Severson sells the same amp but, at least when I bought mine, at a savings of about $150 less than the Quilter factory itself. In addition, while the timing of the arrangement didn't allow this advantage for me (I had to wait an extra 2 days while the amp was shipped from Quilter to Severson), I believe he gets them drop shipped directly from the factory again. At least he used to. It's possible that he got that service restored. You should call and check if time is an issue.
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Same explanation from Fender about tje Jazzmaster Ultralight (250w power with a 100w speaker). SS amp makers like to inflate their watts and speaker manufacters like to deflate theirs. Makes sense. Originally Posted by croth
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