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I agree, or at least not the vintage radius.
Originally Posted by Philco
I have a question about compound radius: is it any harder to do or "more expensive"? I would think the essential part is all done by CNC.Last edited by BigDaddyLoveHandles; 04-05-2013 at 12:21 PM.
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04-05-2013 11:41 AM
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About pickup options... I would think it would have to pass the dutchbopper blindfold test.
If it doesn't sound like a Tele is it still a Tele?
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Just to harp on about Bill Lawrence in relation to the Tele bridge. I found this post he put on the TDPRI forum; Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
I separated the bridge part from the pickup mount by cutting the bridge right after the saddles into two pieces. This allowed me to change the bridge pickup in less than a minute without even loosening the strings. To my surprise, I recognized that the sound was much more transparent, and the microphonic squealing at high volume levels had virtually disappeared.
Many years later when I did a four year research on the behavior of eddy currents, I discovered that the two piece bridge had no negative interference on the performance of the pickups. The newer chrome-plated heavy brass bridge mount causes not only a strong damping effect on the guitar but also induces severe eddy current losses in the pickup itself. Cut the bridge into two pieces and the losses disappear. Try it and you may like it!
So we could drop that bridge for something else?
There's something about that rectangle that makes it look 'right!' Like spellings of words.... Colour or Color. Theatre or Theater.
For me the language of the Telecaster spells out 'Ugly POS Bridge' and I have accepted it.
Found this as well.
Mr Lawrence with a neat 3 way switch mod using the neck pickup as a filter! (check out the bridge unit in 2 pieces)
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How about we design the converse - a Gibson L-5 Rock 'n' Roll Model?
Skinny neck
Locking nut
EMGs
Coil split switches
Bigsby
Strung with 9's
How many of you would say with dismay: That's no longer an L-5! ??
I prefer to submit to the Zen of the Telecaster. I think a 25.5" scale, the standard bridge, single coils, and 250K pots are a must. You're free to mess with nut width and radius, but those other things must remain. I also think alder or ash, maybe mahogany, with a maple neck (fingerboard can vary) is highly advisable.
Of course all of the talk is fun. And you know, Fender already created this, which I always thought was pretty dreamy for jazz:
FENDER® AMERICAN SPRUCE TOP CHAMBERED ASH TELECASTER® W/HSC () - Elderly Instruments
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Fender Tele Jazz model? Haha, doesnt need to be one. We already have the Standard Telecaster!
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I think this is it:
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You have a point.... Originally Posted by willschmid97
Fender Tele Jazz model? Haha, doesnt need to be one. We already have the Standard Telecaster!
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You know, I may be feeding off what was previously said, but I have to bring up the point that it is a telecaster. It is not a Les Paul, it is not a strat, it is not a hollow body, it is a telecaster. It is a solid body with the signature dual single coil configuration. The shape alone does not make it a true tele to me. I have quick access to an original 70s American Standard in black, and that is my favorite guitar of all time, for any genre of music I play. Jazz especially! I have a Sheraton II for humbucker work, and it gives me a more classic tone, but nothing sings like a standard telecaster.
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I had all these great ideas for what I envision as the perfect Jazz model, but after a few posts that we already have it with a Standard I got to thinking(which NEVER has a good outcome!) that they are right. I also have a Standard, and I do play it for jazz. In fact, the Tele and my Strat with 2 DiMarzio humbuckers are my jazz guitars. Sooooo, new thought...
A dressed to the nines Tele will be my next project, a "Tuxedo"-type. Maybe a black body, white pearl pickguard and the hardware in 2 tone, both chrome and gold...now if Fender would make that with a binding...hmmm....
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The last time I went to the Fender website, they offered 94 different models of telecasters...so if you want it, they probably make it. Semi hollow, chambered, HB's, P90, set neck, coil-split, 24 3/4 scale...
The most intriguing to me are the special design custom with a set neck, duncan humbuckers w/coil-split, or the squier vintage modified thinline with a 24 3/4 neck.
Of course, I'm one of those that believe you can't improve on the perfection of a standard.Last edited by cosmic gumbo; 04-07-2013 at 06:53 PM.
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So many models and not one specific one that I *really* want! If they only had three models, I'd probably buy one. There must be some name for this psychological irony.
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Yeah same for me. You can say that it's already perfect...... but not for jazz IMO.....hence the thread. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
It IS perfect for many things. A design wonder for sure.
It sounds like a Tele.
Electric.
Nice.
But electric.
Never heard one that had a jazz sound I liked. Including Ed and Ted.
That's why we gotta mess with it!
Hey Cosmic....that shorter scale thinline sounds very interesting.....now if only the radius of the board was 12"....
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What about the Acoustasonic Tele? It isn't really my thing, but I'll bet in the right hands it could be very cool.
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It will be problems with tuning...I think. Originally Posted by Bryan T
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Why? Originally Posted by kris
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Probably a reaction to the saddle? I wonder if they intonate it for a wound or unwound G from the factory. Originally Posted by SamBooka
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Originally Posted by Bryan T
YEAH!! Can't believe it. AND it has a 12" radius board. "It's like they made it for me" (said in Homer Simpson voice)
Great find Bryan T!!
I'll try and find one locally to play. Wonder if it's USA made or Chinese?
Love that Olympic White. The one I sold was exactly that colour with the same plate.
It's a conspiracy!
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Simplistic demo......although he states that the fretboard is a 9 1/2 radius. Not according to Fender though.
Then this....
Last edited by Philco; 04-08-2013 at 07:00 PM. Reason: added video.
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On second thoughts.......PASS.
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I dig the Frisell/Bro approach to teles in jazz. Let that tele be a tele dammit!
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Thick v neck, rosewood board, alder, modern bridge. Mine has both contours, but the carved top looks super cool.
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Is it just me or is this a gibsonesque Tele?
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That last one...the dark grey one was at my guitar repair shop yesterday....as a stock for sale item, not a repair.
Except it had a standard 6 piece Tele bridge. Made in China.
When I saw it I thought.....wow a thin line with P90's....this is just up my alley.
Then I played it.
If you were planting tomatoes and needed some long bits of wood to keep the vines straight, you might consider one of these...
Ok that was just unkind..........how about "this would make a terrific addition to your kindling box"
No?.... well.....let's just say it would probably come up ok with a bit of work.
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Different sets of strings need exelent saddle intonation. Originally Posted by SamBooka
This saddle in the bridge is similar to saddle of acoustic instruments.
On standard Tele you have more precision intonation because of saddles/ in ex 6 saddles/.
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I tried one of these as well and I was meh! I spent an afternoon playing all sorts of Teles with a view to see what was the nicest sounding and I must say any of the P90'd ones were average at best. Works for some people I guess. Originally Posted by Philco
That last one...the dark grey one was at my guitar repair shop yesterday....as a stock for sale item, not a repair.
Except it had a standard 6 piece Tele bridge. Made in China.
When I saw it I thought.....wow a thin line with P90's....this is just up my alley.
Then I played it.
If you were planting tomatoes and needed some long bits of wood to keep the vines straight, you might consider one of these...
Ok that was just unkind..........how about "this would make a terrific addition to your kindling box"
No?.... well.....let's just say it would probably come up ok with a bit of work.
Now that Acoustasonic with a Charlie Christian pickup and flatwounds, could that be the ultimate Jazz Tele?????
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