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No problem. I was just bugging you about it privately because you mentioned in a thread a few months ago that you were going to order one but you ended up not doing it. Nothing worth remembering.
Originally Posted by Spook410
Yes the list is common and somewhat expected as a repeat customer, but maybe not for the first time buyer—which was really who that comment was intended to reach. What was new to me was even more tooling marks, and blemishes. Things that needed fixing were much worse this time… again, all manageable stuff, but not the greatest. By wood filler i mean literal wood filler in the spruce top. It looks like there was a tiny knot they filled and sanded. For the nut it is installed with a gap between it and the fretboard—possibly at an angle. The truss rod nut is either rounded out, or has a non-standard size of hex key—I want to replace it. Originally Posted by Spook410
The frets on the FB extension look like they haven't been leveled like the rest of the FB. The lower strings hit the frets on the extension because they are so high. I always factor in $200, on top of the Yunzhi price, for a full setup at the tech (full fret level and crown, nut work, radius matching, bridge slot angle, other misc). I'm not complaining, just trying to be transparent to future buyers.
The Solo-alike is very different (which is why I got it) from my traditional 16" f-hole non-cut Eastman, and previous 16" oval hole. It does have a great midrange attack like an archtop but has a little more jangle towards the flattop side (a little). It's still a young guitar so I expect it to change dramatically for the better in the next 8 months (which I didn't used to believe). At some point I can post a comparison. Originally Posted by Spook410
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09-25-2013 04:46 PM
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Thank you Spook for the good advice, I read the Schatten thumbwheels thread, maybe you will tell us about your choice of 250k vs 500k and capacitor choice if any, and the results. Originally Posted by Spook410
Thank you Spiral for sharing your experience , it's very usefull for a first buyer.
It's true that leveling problems, tools marks, wood filler, & finishing problems must be considered ...
Did you experiment a significant difference between buying a "standard" Yunzhi guitar
and ordering a custom made with best wood best craftmanship option (cost 100 usd more)?
Maybe are you already talking about custom ordered guitars only ?
thanks a lot,
christopheLast edited by ninjasan; 09-26-2013 at 09:30 AM. Reason: typo
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Sorry for the lateness in getting the soundsample up for my Yunzhi which kicked this thread off oh so long ago, but its finally here. Don't get to access Internet that often so apologies and hope this link works:
been with me approx 5 months and now fitted with K+K Definity pu but is acoustic into Zoom H4 no tweaks or nothing.
Great in a small room with no feedback issues so far. Apologies for the feeble Nuages attempt
Ian
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Ooooh, i love the sound of it !
Nice little vid, thank you.
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That sounds quite good.
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This is a dream sound for me! Reminds me of old Kays and Harmonys in the best possible way, and something I've been searching for for a long time. What specs did you order (bracing, depth, lower bout)? Originally Posted by IanBart
I'd like to amend my earlier comments. I now prefer my two Yunzhi guitars to any other archtop I've owned (and since sold). If you want a good acoustic sound, these are where it's at.
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All specs were their standard sizes X braced, 3' depth and 17' lower bout. Woods were from a choice shown and colour re- done after not impressed with first attempt. Stock tuners which are ok and no electrics which I had installed at home with the set up. The finish was perfect with no faults at all. Acoustic tone was also what I had in mind too and plugged in its ideal straight into PA in a small solo gig setting which is were I've been using it.
I've never played a high end Archtop so can't compare it to anything. A friend has played lots and never heard of Yunzhi and he rates it as one of the best 17' guitars he's played. Looking at a non cutaway L5 style model next, anyone tried a 16' version?
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Thanks for confirming the specs. Originally Posted by IanBart
I've played many acoustic archtops so you are very fortunate not having to search for "that sound". It's nonstop and expensive.
The price tag doesn't relate to sound quality IMO. There are plenty of high end archtops that don't sound amazing. I'd say you did alright. Sounds great.
It's funny you asked about an L5 style. That is my plan: 16" noncut. Hopefully you don't mind me sharing what I was thinking: 16"; subtle "honey burst"; black binding on body, neck, and headstock. Going to order in the next week or so. I'll let you know how it goes.
Last edited by spiral; 03-01-2014 at 09:45 PM.
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Wow Spiral, When I scrolled down to see the your photo it just floored me. It was simply so unconventional.A stunner. Good luck with the build. As everyone has been having such good luck with these Yunzhis, I have to consider build for myself.
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Have to agree, that is simply stunning. Is it staying all acoustic or are you adding to it? Did you upgrade the wood choice? Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.
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Thanks! It's a mutt of cosmetic specs that I've liked over the last year culled from constantly looking and the dimensions of a few 16" guitars I've loved. I recently saw this amber burst on a few instruments I could never afford: Originally Posted by Archtop Guy
It will be interesting to see how the 16" sounds compared to yours. Going to keep it all acoustic. I haven't done anything yet as I just sent the request last night. I won't do any wood upgrades. I'm likely alone but the super showy wood and bling puts me off. Originally Posted by IanBart
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Wow, those are beautiful! It will be great to see that finish on your newest Yunzhi. Originally Posted by spiral
Thanks! It's a mutt of cosmetic specs that I've liked over the last year culled from constantly looking and the dimensions of a few 16" guitars I've loved. I recently saw this amber burst on a few instruments I could never afford:
Could you please ID the guitars in the above photo? Drooling here... Thx.
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Make sure there are no small children in the room as I can't be responsible for the words that might come out of your mouth. Originally Posted by ooglybong
Zeidler Archtop project $100k
Made by 14 top-tier luthiers to offset medical cost for John Zeidler (also a luthier)
http://calyxdesign.com/history-and-i...chtop-project/
Mark Blanchard Hybrid Archtop starts at $12.5k
As gorgeous as it is out of my price range.
http://www.blanchardguitars.com/guit...roundhole.html
Victor Baker Thinline 14" ($$$?)
http://www.victorbakerguitars.com/blog/?p=5615
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Zeidler….tragic story, great guitars.
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As previous sample was deleted here is an update from my 2013 made Yunzhi. Hopefully it may answer any sound questions to Acoustic tone from these guitars.
This guitar in question has a K&K Defintiy attached but this comes straight into a Zoom H4 sat about 6' from front of guitar.
its not straight Jazz as I am a relative student in this area so it's a little mix of Blues with singing which is the stuff I usually perform and also it's hand carved and as yet I've not had one issue with feedback played in small gigs going direct into PA.
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That actually sounds pretty danged good Ian.
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The guitar is really coming on and has bags of punch played with fingers. Trying to curb my GAS for a L5 style and recording the guitar is helping by
A. Getting to hear it back- loving the acoustic tone.
B. I'm Skint! (no money)
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Very good Ian, i dig it !
I guess that the lesser bass compared to a flat top actually helps for a good clarity and balance with your voice.
That is clear on the video, the voice / guitar balance is spot on, i think.
Each time i switch to a flat top i think, oh man there is THAT much bass i can have on a guitar but when i switch back to my recently welcomed Yunzhi i really get to appreciate more and more the "sobriety" and not having a sound overdone in the bass department. Takes time to get used to it but i start to understand what an acoustic archtop can do.
So, with some singing on top of it, i can imagine how you feel on your Yunzhi.
Do you use your Gibson more often ? 50 /50 ?
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At the moment my heart is right in Chord Melody and practice is 80% on the Yunzhi with this at home, the Gibson has too much overtones for this style and as you say can be a little Bass heavy. Never really noticed if it was drowning the vocal too much as it's a great one for other gigs I play at Folk/Bluesy type stuff.
Playing out with the Yunzhi gets so much interest and comments but it's only selected for a few songs as my confidence level playing Jazz is still at the beginner stage.
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Lots of good advice here. Like a lot of things you get some duffs but for my Yunzhi, I love the fingerboard and tailpiece and I just love my guitar. Still playing around with the right strings etc. but the best advice given here which I support is don't try and play around too much with what the makers are doing - the potential for 'lost in translation' mishaps is huge - trust me, I live in Beijing and it happens all the time. If you get any problems they will be small and easier to fix in the west. Just to give you an example - after buying my guitar I wanted to set i tup here in China - No one really knew what I was talking about except Lora and her answer was that she doesn't know anyone! Hope that helps.
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