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I dig Tele's with humbuckers in the neck. Makes them much more versatile for the stuff I play. With that said, I pulled the Seth Lover out of my ASAT Bluesboy Korina solidbody since it was too strong for the bridge p'up. Great sounding by itself however.
I replaced it with a SD Phat Cat (Humbucker sized faux P90) and it is perfect...for this instrument. I had another semi-hollow Bluesboy with a Seth that sounded perfect for that guitar. Go figure.
Each guitar is different.
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02-25-2017 05:49 PM
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Nothing wrong with the single coil tele neck for the typical jazz tone but I wanted something that was more versatile so I installed a Lollar Mini Hum in the neck of my Larrivee Bakersfield and a Lollar B.S. Tele in the bridge. Very closely matched in volume and in tone with the exception of the location differences i.e. bridge or neck location dynamics. I have a number of guitars with all different kinds of pickups but when it comes to solid body guitar, I prefer the brighter mini hum tone over the typical PAF tone.
My favorite solid body next to the Larivee is my Gibson Les Paul Deluxe with a Lollar minihum in the neck and a Kinman P90X in the bridge.
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Andy Summers + Keith Richards can't be wrong! Both used HB in neck.
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As a guy who played and gigged a 73 DeLuxe for 15 years, I wholeheartedly agree. Minis shine with more detail, but still have enough girth to deliver full-bodied rock tones (which was what I was playing at the time) -- though they might need some help from a good dirtbox on heavier stuff. But that 73 -- it could, with the right rig, do almost anything.
Originally Posted by rob taft
My own thinking on it, and I've got no sources to back this up, is that the smaller body of the pickup "samples" a narrower portion of the string, and when you combine that with lower output, I ended up with a tone that split the difference between a hummer and an SC.
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Today I watched a video where some guy plays a stock Tele and it sounded marvelous, full, jazzy, and yet very articulated. So I am having second thoughts about replacing the humbuckers in my Tele with single coils. Yeah, and share your opinions about the bridge pickup too, please, if you care enough to use it.
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My Tele is totally stock, still using the light weight strings I used for rock. Can't get it to jazz sound even with an SB12 tube amp that's marvelous with the wmearly PAF stickered humbucker on my archtop.
I've been told if I switch to a bit heavier flats, as many have, it can do just fine. Sure made a difference with my archtop.
So next set will be flats and I'll be in a better place to add my experience with string differences on a stock "lipstick" Tele.
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I‘m perfectly happy with my stock Tele neck pickup. One can get a real nice jazzy tone from it. I am more at home in the rock territory these days and there people don‘t care much for the Tele neck. They‘d rather put a Strat pickup there (like David gilmour did with his Esquire when he modified it. He even said verbatim ‚a Tele neck pickup never quite delivers‘ ... not true in jazz)
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just for clarity..the term lipstick pickups usually applies to danelectros..they actually used lipstick cases!!!
the tele neck pup is just a single coil pickup, with a cover for less interference..its also wound with slightly thinner #43 wire...why some prefer strat neck pups with #42 wire
the tele bridge pups are #42 wire
i like the bridge pups with even polepieces ,not staggered..gives a clean pedal steel like tone ..loud clear and strong
flats make huge difference on tele..classic vintage tone..and you don't even have to go that heavy...if you are used to roundwound 9's or 10's try a 10 set of flats first..you'll still hear the difference in tone without being troubled by a severe increase in tension
leo fender was all about single coil pups!!
cheers
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Stock Tele pickups with flats will get great jazz sound. A humbucker sounds different, but not necessarily better.
I have a MIJ 62 Custom Tele - even with the stock MIJ pickups it had a great jazz sound. I replaced the pickups with Bill Lawrence Micro-coils, there was certainly an improvement (sweeter highs, and a deeper low end) but that's not to say there was really anything wrong with the stock set.
I too like that pedal-steel sound in the bridge.
I use Thomastik Jazz Swings on my Tele, it gives it that nice "bouncy" sound on the low strings. Not only good for jazz, but great for old school western swing, rockabilly etc.
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Worth posting again:
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I use both: Dimarzio Area T pickups, which are stacked humbuckers in the Tele pickup form factor. They give up nothing in terms of Tele-ness, have great jazz tone, and zero hum. Best of both worlds.
My other Tele has a single pickup in the neck position, a Vintage Vibe Guitars Charlie Christian style. Can hum like crazy, but what a tone.
You've probably seen this already:
Then compare to:
That's also the best tie knot I think I have ever seen.
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always great to (RE)watch tims great vids..and here's his maestro (ted greene)'s tele vid
cheers
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Stock tele pickup for me, though I'm not anti-humbucker.
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One of my reasons for getting a tele was for the great sounding stock pups, both of them.
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I put a "Vintage Stack" pickup from Seymour Duncan in my Tele neck. It uses the same type of chrome cover but it houses a stack of two mini humbuckers. It's less boomy than a Humbucker and has clarity. Sort of like a P90 sound. It also hum cancels.
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I saw Julian Lage play the other night, using a single coil telecaster. He might not have what one normally thinks of as a "jazz" tone, be got a range of sounds out of it. It makes me feel like I wasted a ton of time and money screwing around and researching different pickups for my telecaster. Though I love my Lollar vintage t pickups. They're staying.
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Humbuckers can be great p/us alright. My taste runs more to single coils. I have two teles now, both partscasters. One a spanish cedar body with 2 P90s and a RW board neck. The other an alder body, with a roasted maple neck, a set of "Joel Foy" pickups from Don Mare.
That P90 tele is what I take out to mess around with jazz with friends. The neck p/u sounds so good with some tone knob rolloff ... I could honestly live with this as my only jazz guitar if the archtops had to go.
Don Mare's neck p/u in that Joel Foy set is just as good for jazz in its own way. Once again, with some tone knob rolloff. A warm, smooth sound with real depth.
Teles amaze me daily. It's the versatility. For jazz or anything else.
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I have always thought that Ed Bickert sounded best when he was wearing a sweater, that's just my opinion.
I replaced my Tele pick-ups with Bill Lawrence hand wound noiseless pick-ups, a 202 stacked humbucker in the neck and a twin blade in the bridge, ver happy with them. They maintain the Tele vibe while adding -imo- some dynamics to the tone.
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I have bardens in my ild japanese one and they are hard to beat in the neck. But my newer deluxe has the noiseless fenders and i love it as well.
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Tele, single coil. The "Tele Sound" is from a single coil pup.
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I keep thinking someone should come out with a signature jazz Tele with no bridge pup but two neck pups right next to each other, a single coil and a humpupper.
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Fender’s N3 Noiseless Pickups are similar. Not quite as gutsy as a P90 and much quieter than a standard Tele pup. I really like them. Originally Posted by rintincop
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any pickup technology that can mask the hum of a single coil pickup, also alters tone...
some can live with it/prefer it..but it doesn't sound like a true single coil...& many of the original 50's single coils were not even reverse wound...so there was no middle position to reduce hum...some prefer that! better timbre for sure
two noisy non reverse wired single coil dynasonics on an old gretsch sound pretty nice to me! in all positions
cheers
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I've been thinking about checking out those Virgin Vibe pickups, they're hand wound by nuns at a convent outside of Veracruz. They say those pups sound like angels humming.
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