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I played one of these when they first came out, and I haven't seen one since. I've found out they have been discontinued but I'm still interested in them. Does anyone have one or know where I could find one?
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08-23-2012 10:20 PM
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Hi Matt,
Many love the ultralight there was one for sale here on the forum for $700
methinks also including the speaker.
Also Sam Ash in Cherry Hill,New Jersey got one for $499 without
the speaker, it's dinged a bit and I'm sure they'll let it go for less, I
know thats about 3000 miles from you, but it's what I know.
Best of luck on the hunt, they turn up.
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I have one and like it a lot. I have been told it's designed to sound like a blackface and it does have the Fender clean clarity vibe but I also get a little acoustic vibe you get from "jazz amps", maybe it's the closed back cab that gives the amp that sound.
Basically it's very loud, very light and sounds quite good (with usable reverb). To sound exactly as I want I did some mods and use some external eq but I can get away with it just plugging the guitar straight. You won't find something that fits the loud, light, good sounding equation as good in my experience.
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jorge,
Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
As you know, I have been interested in one of these for a while.
I just need to know if you could also use this as a practice amp and play at "bedroom" sound levels. Will the volume go low enough?
I had a Fender Frontman 212R, 100 watt and the volume would be a whisper below around "1" and then would jump to "too loud" once I turned the knob just a little. It was either loud or really soft; there was no in-between.
Thanks, jorge.
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Yes, I use mine to practice a lot, no problem about that! I actually did a mod to the volume knob suggested by a forum member: stock the volume knob works mostly between 1 and 4 and adds some high end as you increase it; after the mod it works equally from 1 to 10 and adds no highs or lows. (also upgraded the op amps which increased fidelity) But even stock the amp is perfectly usable at bedroom volumes, no problem!
I have to say if you don't gig the amp looses part of it's appeal: size and weight... And for gigging the stock cab can sound a little small and boxy, I have a big 2x12 to fill bigger rooms when needed. Bu this also happened to me in unmiced gigs with an Heniksen, small closed back cabs tend to sound boxy in bigger ensemble situations. But it works perfectly in most situations.
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This begs one more question. Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
I believe the JMUL uses a 2 ohm speaker. What is the ohms rating for your 2 X 12 and were the speakers difficult to find?
Again, thanks!
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With SS amps you usually only have minimum impedance. So 2 ohms is the minimum the amp takes, it will take everything from above but will loose some power (most people say it's cut by half at 4 ohms and then again at 8 ohms but as I understand that rule is not always like that as you with the Henriksen, 160w at 4 ohms and 120w at 8 ohms, not 80w).
One of the cabs I use is a 2x12 Dr Z I got used unloaded. I mod it to be convertible and I use it msotly closed. Speakers are Jensen Tornados that give 200w at 4ohms. The Tornados are similar to the Neos (the stock ones with the JMUL) but don't have the mid presence NEOs have. I don't notice significant volume drop but the size of the cab and the 2x12 contribute for that for sure!
I also use it with a 1x12 Dr Z convertible cab I also was lucky to score used unloaded. I use an EV there which gives 200w 8 ohms. The volume drop here is more evident but still plenty loud... But the EV really shines with the Henriksen. The 2x12 with Tornados sounds good with both, it's a very good choice for the JMUL.
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Another Jazzmaster Ultralight user here. They can be hard to find (none on eBay at present) because a) Fender didn't promote them (when I ordered mine, the local Fender dealer had never heard of the model) and b) a lot of us who bought them won't let go.
This one gets a lot of use: I plug my 335 into it and a friend likes to run it with his Fishman-equipped Martin acoustic. It always sounds good, it's small and light, and the feet of the head fit into magnetic wells on the cabinet so you can use it with a tilt-back stand.
One or two should be available in the Los Angeles area. Try to get one with the speaker cabinet.
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How is the tone for this cab set-up? What type of speaker do they use? Would you recommend bypassing the cab and just get the head?
Originally Posted by lpdeluxe
Another Jazzmaster Ultralight user here. They can be hard to find (none on eBay at present) because a) Fender didn't promote them (when I ordered mine, the local Fender dealer had never heard of the model) and b) a lot of us who bought them won't let go.
This one gets a lot of use: I plug my 335 into it and a friend likes to run it with his Fishman-equipped Martin acoustic. It always sounds good, it's small and light, and the feet of the head fit into magnetic wells on the cabinet so you can use it with a tilt-back stand.
One or two should be available in the Los Angeles area. Try to get one with the speaker cabinet.
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I read a review of this amp. It said you could not use the reverb effect without also using the delay and overdrive!
Quote: "One considerable gripe is the digital reverb, which can only be used in conjunction with delay and overdrive."
So the clean channel apparently does not have reverb. This takes away from the attractiveness of the amp since I would have to use a pedal.
This also significantly diminshes my GAS for the amp, which is a good thing for my wallet.
Here is a link to the article.
Jazz Instruments: Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight Guitar Amplifier - By Evan Haga ? Jazz ArticlesLast edited by AlsoRan; 08-27-2012 at 11:25 AM. Reason: spelling
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"Tone" is highly subjective. I think the JMUL sounds very Fendery to me, and, in fact, a friend and A/B'd it with his Nov '67 Super Reverb, which I had been gigging with for a number of years. The sound was similar enough that it made no sense to haul around the extra 40 lb of the Super. As I noted above, we have plugged several guitars through it, including the Les Paul Deluxe pictured, an SG, my current 335 and my friend's 340 and Martin. Each one sounds good to my ear.
I haven't tried it with a different speaker cabinet, partly because I like the light weight and convenience but also because the head has a single Speakon plug. I see more heads that heads+cabs on eBay, however, so players must be using them that way. I understand that the speaker is an Italian Jensen 12".
I took my DRRI to theater gig Saturday night, and, in retrospect should have taken the JMUL. My partner was playing his pickup-equipped J45, which lacked a volume control, into it, and it was a bit fiddly trying to get the right level where it would be heard over the percussion, backup vocals and bass without drowning them out. The Jazzmaster, with its modern controls, works better in such a situation and is 17 lb lighter to boot.
Personally, it'll be the last one I sell. It has no drawbacks in use, and looks and sounds good, and fits my playing personality.
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Apparently the reviewer didn't spend much time with the amp. The head features a separate row of controls for the Clean Channel (Volume; Treble, Mid, Bass; Effects Level and Effects Select) and the Drive Channel (Gain, Volume; Treble, Mid, Bass; Effects Level and Effects Select). Originally Posted by AlsoRan
The digital effects are: Chorus 1 Slow, Chorus 2 Fast, Chorus and Delay+~330ms, Chorus and Reverb Slow and Room, Flange 1 Slow, Flange 2 Fast, Tremolo 1 Low Intensity, Tremolo 2 High Intensity, Vibratone Rotating Speaker, Delay 1 ~130ms (Slapback), Delay 2 ~330ms, Delay 3 ~330ms, Reverb 1 Room, Reverb 2 Hall, Reverb 3 Spring, and Reverb and Delay Room + ~300ms.
Note that a) all effects are available on both channels and b) in contradiction to the article cited (" One considerable gripe is the digital reverb, which can only be used in conjunction with delay and overdrive") three reverbs with different dwell rates are offered alone and on each channel, along with combinations of Chorus+Reverb and, obviously, straight reverb with distortion on the drive channel.
My gripe would be the lack of tweakabilty for each effect: you must use presets, with the only option being the ratio of "wet" to "dry."
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Another poor review exposed! Thanks, Ip. Originally Posted by lpdeluxe
What an oversight. Does anybody do a good job anymore?
The downside of your comment is that now I can feel the GAS rising within me anew.
Darn you, Ip!
(just kidding - thanks for the clarification)
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single 12" Jensen speaker with lightweight Neodymium magnet
Specifications
Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight Amplifier
* 250 watts
* 7 pounds overall weight (head only)
* individual DSP effects on each channel
reverb, delay, chorus, flange, vibratone, tremolo
* tube-emulated overdrive channel
* speaker-emulated XLR line out w/level control
* headphone out
* tuner out with mute
* 3-button footswitch for channel selection
* voltage selector switch for worldwide use
* solid maple side panels
* padded shoulder carry bag
Specifications
Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight 112 Enclosure * handles 250 watts (2 ohms)
* single 12" Jensen speaker with lightweight Neodymium magnet
* Italian poplar plywood construction
* magnet docking system allows secure attachment of amp to enclosure
* locking Neutrik speaker connector
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Man what a poor review... You can use effects independently. The reverbs are all nice althogh not stellar. The OD is surprisingly good.
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I'm confused here(not hard for me). Can this be used by itself or do you have to have a speaker cabinet?
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They are talking about two pieces. There is an UltraLight Head that requires a cabinet. Then Fender also made an Ultralight speaker cabinet. Both are discontinued now. Originally Posted by edh
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I really like the Jensen 12" Neo, 8ohms, that I have had in my cab for several years. I was delighted and suprized that they use the same speaker in the cab.
Originally Posted by Wildcat
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I have had one since they were introduced. Never intend to part with it. The only complaint I have is the clean channel is a bit noisy when volume is above 2:00. Using an EHX Hum Debugger (even with dual coils) helps considerably.
The mods referred to in this form sound intriguing, but I am reluctant to try them. If it ever needs major surgery, I may.
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What kind of speaker does a JMUL use ?
Jensen yeah which one ?
their 12" Neo is only 100 watts RMS
perhaps Fender quote music power as 250 watts
Anyone used one in another amp
I need something warmer for my Rockette
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I had some noise in mine - new electrolytical caps and putting some wires away from some parts of the circuit took care of of it. Trying OPA2134 instead of the TL072 might help too. Originally Posted by garryrenfro
I have had one since they were introduced. Never intend to part with it. The only complaint I have is the clean channel is a bit noisy when volume is above 2:00. Using an EHX Hum Debugger (even with dual coils) helps considerably.
The mods referred to in this form sound intriguing, but I am reluctant to try them. If it ever needs major surgery, I may.
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That's sort of one of the myths of this amp. Fender clearly inflated the watts, when I talked to them they told me 200w at 2 ohms and couldn't give me figures for other impedances. When I talked to Jensen they told me it's a regular 100w neo, not custom... But I have played very loud and so far, so good. Originally Posted by pingu
I like the neo bue like the jensen tornado even more and it's the same weight / price. The Tornado is warmer, has less mids.
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Hi ingeneri! I have one and some of the relaibility issues you read about online are laughable, guys that don't know the head can be used above 2 ohms or that don't know you can get a jack / speakon adapter.
Given this I have read people have problems with noise and the amp shutting down suddenly. I have had the first and new electrolytical caps and moving a wire to a new place inside the amp solved the problem.
I did some small mods to the amp and I am very happy with them.
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I bought one new when they came out. I did have a couple minor issues with it. I had a problem with the footswitch initially. It either wouldn't switch channel or effects, I forget. Fender warranty replaced it with a brand new amp for some reason. That new amp was noisy. They replaced it again and then I was good to go. Even though I had some problems, I think they are a great sounding amp and its unfortunate Fender went another direction from them. However, I no longer have it as it ended up making me want Fender tube amps, so now I have a couple of those...actually 3, counting a '79 Champ that is in the mail.
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I recently got my JMUL (head & speaker) thru Guitar Center's website—a steal for $600 total (s/h included). There was a single, horrible fuzzy photo on their site, but the amp turned out to be utterly mint. Nice! Packed horribly, so thank God (not GC) it arrived safely. Originally Posted by ingeneri
No noise issues at all (so far), but, to be honest, I haven't put all that much milage on it yet (but enuf to know it's OK). Yeah, I also read some (rare) horror stories online, so I did take the precaution at the time to buy a 3-Yr GC warrantee for about $60. (I figured I got the amp cheap enuf, so what the hey, right? I usually never get extended warrantees, but... )
Overall, though, it's a great sounding amp and well worth owning.
Jorge: Did your mods end up with a tonal difference, or was it more for reliability? Also, could you please provide some more details on exactly which mods you performed on yours? Possibly some links to a site somewhere? Thanks!
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