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    I am going to buy a hollow body guitar ibanez af or ag model not clear yet
    but im totally noob about strings so can you advice me
    Strings - Thomann UK Cyberstore

    Check this site, many differents strings here, what kind of strings do you think are good for these guitars im thinking about

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    For jazz - Thomastik Infeld Bebop 12 or even thicker.

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    Thomastik are a favorite here (I actually tried the flats and did not liked them). Maybe start with 012 - I assume you're used to more light strings. Buy some flats (swing) and some rounds (bebop) and see which ones you like more.

    If you're un the UK check this site, plenty of jazz stuff there

    Jazz Guitars, Amps & Accessories

    And as I said in the pick thread use the search function, you'll find plenty of threads on the subject.

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    I'll stick with D'Addario until I get my chops down. You need a base for reference. Until you put some time on D'Addario and know what you want, don't waste your money on more expensive strings.

    Goes for picks or plectra too. Start with Fender Medium 351, put in some time and then go from there.
    Last edited by Jabberwocky; 05-05-2012 at 04:45 PM.

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    Depending on sound I want or if just in lots of practice mode I will use either D'Addario Chromes 12's, sometimes 13's, or D'Addario XLs Jazz lights or on my Tele for funky XL 11's.

    I've tried LOTS of strings over the years and keep coming back to D'Addario they are bright, last a long time, and good price. I also like that they tend to be higher tension string than others.

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    what about this ones Daddario EXL110 ?

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    well the problem is i even dont know whats the standar and official name for jazz strings, are they considered steel strings, electric or acoustic
    im going to buy them here Strings - Thomann UK Cyberstore

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    definetly the
    Flatwound Strings for Guitar are very expensive, i only has as budget 6 euros

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    Practice with the string you can afford..It's the practice that makes a musician, not the strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harleyboy
    Practice with the string you can afford..It's the practice that makes a musician, not the strings.
    Yea.. I wish enthusiasm for musical hardware translated into actual skill. I would be *so* much better.

    I think whatever you get in a heavier gauge will sound great on your new guitar.

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    ok, thanx,

    Well, so i need to search for thick strings, i see in the web site there are 008, 009,0010 and 0011, i guess this has something to do with the thickness of the strings, which do you recommend me?

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    Thomastik Infeld....Swing or Be-bop series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzyguitar
    ok, thanx,

    Well, so i need to search for thick strings, i see in the web site there are 008, 009,0010 and 0011, i guess this has something to do with the thickness of the strings, which do you recommend me?

    008 are definitely the best choice!
















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    Dean Markley DM 1976 Vintage Re-Issue Jazz - Thomann Cyberstore Español

    what about these ones? are cheap and it says they are for jazz
    have u tried this brand dean amrkley

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzyguitar
    Dean Markley DM 1976 Vintage Re-Issue Jazz - Thomann Cyberstore Español

    what about these ones? are cheap and it says they are for jazz
    have u tried this brand dean amrkley
    Why not Martin Guitars Darco D9100 Jazz - Thomann Cyberstore Español then? Even cheaper, and all nickel, vs nickel plated steel. (softer and mellower)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzyguitar
    ok, thanx,

    Well, so i need to search for thick strings, i see in the web site there are 008, 009,0010 and 0011, i guess this has something to do with the thickness of the strings, which do you recommend me?
    You are on the right track. It surely has something to do with thickness. Those numbers refer to the thickness of the high E string (measured in inches). But there are also 0012, 0013 and 0014. Those are preferred by many jazz players because of the fuller sound and better tuning stability - and in jazz one doesn't bend that much. If you also play the guitar acoustically, the thicker string will give a bigger sound. If you are used to thinner strings, it may be wise to start with a 0011 set and then mayby go up to 0012 when you change them along the road - and then maybe to 0013 the next time again. An abrupt change from, say, 0009 to 0013 will be too much and will feel to odd for most.

    As others have said, there are many choices. Some prefer roundwounds, others prefer flatwounds. You'll have to try them to see what YOU like the best. D'Addario and Thomastik-Infeld are two safe choices which are widely available (D'A more than TI, but both can easily be had from web shops), but of course there are many other good brands. Choice of strings is a very personal thing and everyone has their own idea of what's the best string - for good reasons or for no reason at all.

    Remember, when changing to a different gauge, you may have to adjust the truss rod a bit (go slowly, 1/8 of a full turn at a time, often that is enough when going up or down in string gauge one step).

    If your guitar has a compensated wood bridge, it is almost always compensated for a wound G string (Sadowsky has wood bridge tops compensated for a plain G, though), so you'll have to buy a set with a wound G, or the guitar will play out of tune. That usually means a not to thin gauge (0011 or above). If your guitar has a bridge with standard Gibson spacing (2 29/32") between the height adjustment posts, you can also buy a Tune-O-Matic bridge top (Gotoh has a good one) which allows for individual string compensating. Many electric archtops are delivered from the factory with a Tune-O-Matic type bridge top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierrot
    Why not Martin Guitars Darco D9100 Jazz - Thomann Cyberstore Español then? Even cheaper, and all nickel, vs nickel plated steel. (softer and mellower)
    I haven't tried those as I use flatwounds on my electric guitars. But I actually use Martin Darco bronze strings on my acoustic archtop. They sound great, don't buzz in the tailpiece (which D'A phosfor bronze did), last long and I can get four sets of them for the price of one set of D'A phosphor bronze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldane
    You are on the right track. It surely has something to do with thickness. Those numbers refer to the thickness of the high E string (measured in inches). But there are also 0012, 0013 and 0014. Those are preferred by many jazz players because of the fuller sound and better tuning stability - and in jazz one doesn't bend that much. If you also play the guitar acoustically, the thicker string will give a bigger sound. If you are used to thinner strings, it may be wise to start with a 0011 set and then mayby go up to 0012 when you change them along the road - and then maybe to 0013 the next time again. An abrupt change from, say, 0009 to 0013 will be too much and will feel to odd for most.

    As others have said, there are many choices. Some prefer roundwounds, others prefer flatwounds. You'll have to try them to see what YOU like the best. D'Addario and Thomastik-Infeld are two safe choices which are widely available (D'A more than TI, but both can easily be had from web shops), but of course there are many other good brands. Choice of strings is a very personal thing and everyone has their own idea of what's the best string - for good reasons or for no reason at all.

    Remember, when changing to a different gauge, you may have to adjust the truss rod a bit (go slowly, 1/8 of a full turn at a time, often that is enough when going up or down in string gauge one step).

    If your guitar has a compensated wood bridge, it is almost always compensated for a wound G string (Sadowsky has wood bridge tops compensated for a plain G, though), so you'll have to buy a set with a wound G, or the guitar will play out of tune. That usually means a not to thin gauge (0011 or above). If your guitar has a bridge with standard Gibson spacing (2 29/32") between the height adjustment posts, you can also buy a Tune-O-Matic bridge top (Gotoh has a good one) which allows for individual string compensating. Many electric archtops are delivered from the factory with a Tune-O-Matic type bridge top.
    the point is i think i m going to buy this Ibanez AF75-BS - Thomann Cyberstore Español , which i hope it comes to home with its own strings, so I will use the new ones im asking you about maybe in some months, and i would like to not adjust the board , so what are the standard gauge for this guitar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzyguitar
    the point is i think i m going to buy this Ibanez AF75-BS - Thomann Cyberstore Español , which i hope it comes to home with its own strings, so I will use the new ones im asking you about maybe in some months, and i would like to not adjust the board , so what are the standard gauge for this guitar?
    I have no idea - except I'm sure it comes strung up. But maybe others who own the guitar can tell or you can mail Thomann and ask. An unqualified guess would be roundwounds 0011-0050 or 0012-0052 - or something in that ballpark.

    BUT, don't be afraid of making such small adjustments. Chances are that your new guitar is delivered with a truss rod wrench. You may have a guitar technician or an experienced guitarist show you how it's done the first time (it's easy and and fast). Or you can Google "truss rod adjustment" and I'm sure a lot of hits comes up. There's no need to lock yourself up with one gauge of strings, if you would have liked another better. And such an Ibanez guitar may even benefit from a setup check right from the beginning. They are good and dependable guitars, but man labor is expensive, and by not spending hours on end on setup, they can keep the price down to the benefit of us, the customers. Besides, guitarists preferencies for setup varies just as much as choice of strings and picks do and many change the setup as the first thing when recieving a new guitar (I'm one who does).

    Apart from that many guitars will benefit from a truss rod adjustment twice a year due to the fluctuations in air humidity in the winter and the summer season which makes the wood in the guitar shrink and swell a tiny bit. On most of my guitars I tighten the truss rod a little in the autumn and loosen it a little in the spring in order to keep the neck relief where I want it.

    So knowing how to adjust the truss rod is very useful for a guitarist. (As is knowing how to raise and lower the action and set the intonation, but that's another story).

    Though I don't do too many repairs myself, I have always enjoyed knowing how the mechanics of a guitar works and how setup and repair work are done - even if I have it done by others. To take the mystique and black magic out of it, you may want to check out the following books:

    Amazon.com: How to Make Your Electric Guitar Play Great (Softcover) (Guitar Player Book) (9780879306014): Dan Erlewine: Books

    The Guitar Player Repair Guide - 3rd: Dan Erlewine: 9780879309213: Amazon.com: Books

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    I would not focus much on string gauge. Your first decision is whether to go with a wound or plain G.You won't know until you have tried both. Might as well stick to cheap strings until you know.

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    thomastik infeld. swing 13s. surprisingly they feel more like 11s

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    Ladt year I ordered several sets of strings from different manufacturers thinking it might lead me to making a decision and sticking to it. I tried DA Chromes, Bebops, and others.

    A couple of months ago, I was looking through the string box and noticed that I had ordered one set that I had overlooked and never tried. They were D'Angelico Stainless Steel Flatwounds with a woung G. I strung them up and have not looked back.

    The tone is rich and balanced and I no longer have the odd harmonic of the plain G that always seemed to develop in short order with Bebops, for example (given Oldanes's comment on wound Gs and compensated bridges, I wonder if the Bebop G didn't like my bridge). They also feel good to the ends of my multipurpose fingers.

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    If you buy AF75, it will come with some D'addario 10 roundwound. Just play on them. And play. And play. And after some time you should try some 11's or 12s. But take your time.
    I first tried d'addario flatwounds 11 (they're very good), but now i'm on Thomastik swing 12 and love them. Be aware that thicker strings create more tension and they are harder to play with if you are just beginning to play guitar. Also, you may have to adjust the neck if you change string gauge. As far as I can remember, my old AF75 needed neck adjustment just when I switched from11s to 12s

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    Quote Originally Posted by denis
    If you buy AF75, it will come with some D'addario 10 roundwound. Just play on them. And play. And play. And after some time you should try some 11's or 12s. But take your time.
    I first tried d'addario flatwounds 11 (they're very good), but now i'm on Thomastik swing 12 and love them. Be aware that thicker strings create more tension and they are harder to play with if you are just beginning to play guitar. Also, you may have to adjust the neck if you change string gauge. As far as I can remember, my old AF75 needed neck adjustment just when I switched from11s to 12s
    but not adjust needed from 10 to 11????
    anyways , the thicker the string are the best sound the music has??

    btw i play on a classical guitar with nylon strings, this is the same than 10 , 11 , 12 or mroe on jazz guitar???

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    I think the OP indicated that Thomastik represented some sticker shock so that may be a later choice.

    I would get rid of the strings the come with the guitar. They will be too light and low quality and you'll be thinking your new guitar sounds like cardboard when it's really the wrong strings.

    I think I have a minority view when it comes to adjusting your truss rod for two reasons: a) Better to have some one sitting there with you that has done this before so you see what it feels like for the first time. There are good tutorials on the Internet but if you are not used to using hand tools, better to have someone look over your shoulder. b) It can be done by the tech when you have a setup done on the guitar

    I guess that will be the hard part.. if expensive strings are challenging (I certainly remember those days), paying for a professional setup will be even harder. Still, the guitar will be much happier with a well cut nut, bridge set up for the .012 strings you're getting, and frets gone over. It is money well spent though.