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Ha Ha I also think an EQ pedal is the cheapest and simplest solution to some sound problems. Just to contradict you I had a GE-7 with Monte Allums mods that I liked although something like a Shape EQ or a Para EQ is vastly superior... (now I am proving you're right!)
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04-22-2012 09:07 PM
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The very same question ran through my mine too. Of course, the original statement just doesn't make any sense.
Originally Posted by Insufferable_Rhythm
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When not gigging I backline. The single best amp of all I have taken out I feel is the Deluxe. I want one.
I've owned many Musicman amps. They all had one 12AX7 preamp tube so they were older and sounded great. I sold them off 15 years ago, but the mod done to them all was power amp section. Standard mod, but I forget what it was. Sounded great for jazz.
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I think I may pass on the C30 knowing me I will just end up eyeing the fender and that will be the inevitable end result. Things with the peavey will plague my brain like solid state reverb or something to that affect. I can't help it. Maybe I am a bit OCD or a lot OCD. I once a Casino coz I couldn't see passed the blemishes in the finish the slightly crooked pickup placement and a sloppy bit of binding at the end of the neck. As I say this keep in mind I have a beat up Jazzmaster that always needs work. I guess some instruments to me should loom perfect while others not so much. My Godin is near pristine while my jazzmaster, not so much. I am clearly insane :P
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I would say the Princeton Reverb Reissue,if it's not too high in price range,or the Peavey Delta,but in 1x15" configuration,also you could try the Laney Lionheart.....a "sweet device"..... ;-)
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i can never find the delta 15" version. always a frustrating search
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pity 'coz it's better in my opinion,than the 2x10"i can never find the delta 15" version. always a frustrating search
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I brought home a new Deluxe Reverb Reissue last weekend ...
Combined my Christmas and Birthday Guitar Center gift cards with the tax day coupon ...
bought a little Boss footswitch and got 12 months interest free with my GC card
I'm loving it so far ... probably won't be modding it
May go for a Twin Reverb next ...
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Well for me I find the Deluxe Reverb does sort of a ringing tone as well. That doesn't seem to generate from other amps. I dunno, hard to explain. I like them tho, I think I may go in that direction next. I don't really like the looks of them tho. I love top-controlled tube amps. I sit on my amps a fair bit and front face controls worry me. I am a bit picky it seems lol
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I think I may go with the Peavey Classic 30. The Deluxe Reverb guy changed his mind and the 30 is $300 so it's a pretty sweet deal
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Just a follow up to the mods we talked about. Originally Posted by Philco
Thanks, I'll start with these 2 mods. My good friend is a tech so there's no problems with turning the amp into a total experiment, spending a lot of money and then returning it to stock a few months later.
It's a cycle I must adhere to.
Thanks for alerting me to another bottomless pit where I can throw my
money. The joys of modification will soon be mine!!
I've already called the tech
Well I threw my money into the bottomless pit and actually think it was money well spent.
The cap mod simply requires snipping the cap from the main channel volume pot. My tech showed me the circuit and located the cap quickly and took care of it. No charge.....great price.
I love this mod. before the mod I had my treble control on zero and it was still to bright. With the mod I can actually use the treble control to add a touch of highs.
I picked up a Cannabis Rex 8ohm for $159 .....not bad really.
This was something I could do myself.
I had watched my tech remove the amp chassis from cabinet a week or so earlier so i just followed what he did.
I also removed the reverb housing....just 2 screws.
The new speaker slipped into place easily and the whole job took about haf an hour.
Quite a big difference in tone.
All the flappy bottom end is gone. Before the replacement speaker I had my bass control on zero. If not the L5 would have way to many bottoms.
Now with the new speaker I can use the bass control to add a little.
Apart from that I can hear no difference. But it really lets you understand how those original speakers are voiced. Lots of bottom end. Probably cool for rock but not so much for Jazz.
Next I will mess with pickups. I'm putting a Biltoft P90 into the L5.
Should be very interesting.
I am recording a lot lately so I can hear the before and after.
Very interesting to record a jazz box.
There is no way you can hear what it sounds like until the amp is in another room and you and your guitar are in the control room.
Even then the acoustic sound of the instrument totally screws with your perception of the recorded sound.
You can't really "hear" the tone until you hit playback.
I was pleasantly surprised by how good the L5 sounded.
And I was amazed at how good the Gibson 775 sounded.
When you sit and play that guitar next to the amp it sounds like a traditional 175 sound....what you would expect....fairly nasal because of the stiff laminate top.
But recorded, it sounds much fatter and smoother.
Also I recorded the L5 with Half round strings and then changed to Flat wound.
The flatwounds sounded SO GOOD. They really brought out the tubby Jazz attack and fast decay. The notes were rounder with that depth.
The half rounds sounded very electric.......they sustained the attack of the note to much. It was a great sound but not the Jazz sound I'm looking for.
This is annoying because the Halfrounds are way better for chords. But for solos it's the flats, all the way.
So once again it's back to flatwounds for me.
I'll let you know how the P90 goes.
Recording chain is..Mike (AKGC414) into PreAmp (Millenia STT-1 (Valve stage)) into AD/DA Interface (Digidesign 192) into ProTools HD.
It's quite revealing.
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I don't know whats happening amp wise. No cash money just yet, esp to spend on amp. Car troubles are a kicker. Found a nice Traynor YGM i'd like to get at some point.
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yeah a jazzmaster ultralight completley smokes a Blue Junior. I once also had a Blues Jr with all the mods and there's no comparison, jmul all the way! Originally Posted by Hexatonics
If the HRD sounded like the Polytone I assume the amp's voicing was modded... do you know what mods were done?
Philco glad it worked out for you, I think with propoer "break in" the C Rex will have sweeter highs than the stock speaker.
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I almost never see the ultralight jazzmasters for sale ever. And not usually a fair enough price. When I do the timing is off. Just how it goes I guess
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I haven't picked up my amp yet. I have started looking into traynor amps. mostly vintage, trying to see whats up on a YSR-1 basically a traynor yba-1 with reverb and tremolo. so thats pretty tempting. Still deciding on what to do. I am talking my Jazzmaster and Montreal out with me to the various locations some of these amps are. Making a decision this week.
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The Deluxe Reverb will give you a beautiful, clean tone. Push it and it will break up, probably not good for jazz. It's so bright and clear it won't help you if you want a fat warm sound ala Burrell, etc. Burrell plays a Polytone. If you want that sound, you should also play a Polytone, the older the better. The red knob ones are best. The Fender Blues somethings will give you a fatter sound than the DR but not the dark fat warmth of a Polytone. Solid state amps stay cleaner when you push them, good for jazz chords. The more expensive Fender Blues will be more powerful so will stay clean at louder volumes.
Last edited by river251; 09-24-2012 at 07:37 PM.
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You don't say how you'll use the amp. For solo/duo gigs or just playing at home, the Deluxe Reverb is the classic jazz amp, but I don't think it'll keep up with a loud drummer.
Some people really like the Blues Deluxe and Blues Junior, but I haven't tried one. However, I did have a Hot Rod Deluxe, which I think is in the same family of amps. I liked it in some respects, but the EQ was somewhat odd and overly bright. I think the Deluxe Reverb tone controls are more conducive to a good jazz sound, but that's just how I hear it.
If you play out with a full rhythm section, you probably want at least 50 watts. The Bassman might be good, but you'd need a reverb pedal. A Twin Reverb would be better, but then you can forget about light weight.
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Burrell plays a Polytone on gigs. His recorded sound is clearly in the fender tube area. Originally Posted by river251
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Deluxe Reverb Reissue Next week!
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By the way, Ideal settings on one of these for jazz?
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I am not sure every jazz guitarist like Fender amps.
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Uh Uh I don't tink sooooo......... Originally Posted by jorgemg1984
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How do you know he records with the Polytone? It does not sound at all like one on his records... everything I heard from him sounded like Fender tube amp. Originally Posted by river251
It's actually common for plenty of jazzers to gig with Polytones (and even not like their sound that much) and record with Fenders type tube amps.
I mean just look to his signature model
http://www.jhalemusic.com/pages/heritageAmps.htmlLast edited by jorgemg1984; 10-05-2012 at 06:17 AM.
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Actually, I don't know. Some of his albums do not have the polytone sound, but most do to my ears. But lots of players can get sounds from gear that I can't. So I don't know. I wonder if he plays that at gigs now? I was in LA in the 90s, and every time I saw him he had a mini brute. But you could be right. I never knew what to say whenever I got to talk to him, basically just was in awe, so just told him I really loved his playing and tone. But I'd be surprised if the albums I am thinking of have him on a Fender.
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The sound I associate with Burrell is fat, but has an edge to it. One of the defining characteristics of the Polytone sound IMO is it's lack of edge, or perhaps better described as its "smoothness".
I'm not suggesting that you are wrong in claiming that Burrell recorded using Polytones, but I would like some examples of those Kenny Burrell recordings that contain the Polytone sound.
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