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Hi folks..My first post..
Looking for a classic jazz tone and sound..By moment I didn't get it..
I'd like me to know opinions and experiences to get that classic jazz sound .
Waiting your help , thank you
My gear is a Gibson 175 (from sixties) and twin reverb amp blackface...
How I must put guitar tone and volume controls, and how put the volume middle treble and bass amp controls, for a mellow warm and classic jazz tone?
Thank you very much, and sorry for my bad english
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06-20-2011 03:16 PM
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I don't know if you can achieve a jazz sound with that gear...
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Originally Posted by Pothcra
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Seriously? It is a classic setup. Originally Posted by Pothcra
First, try the normal channel with the bass at about 7 and the treble and mid at about 4. Bright switch off. See if that is closer to what you are looking for.
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IMO you should always cut the bass first, say down to three, then adjust the treble to taste. Mids at 5. No reverb for me.
Cutting the bass is critical for feedback suppression to eliminate muddiness.
I always set the amp volume to a reasonable level, say 4, then adjust the guitar volume. Try neck PU, guitar tones at 10.
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plug it in
roll the bass off or around 9 o'clock
bump up the mid to around noon to 3 o'clock depending on the room
treble as bright as you want it.
reverb to taste
you ought to be getting something warm at this point
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No Originally Posted by djelley
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Sorry - there should be a "smiley" for sarcasm! Originally Posted by Pothcra
No
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I once tried a 175 with a 65 twin reverb and loved the tone.
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Twin Reverbs are notorious for being a sweet spot amp. Search google for Steve Cardenas settings, people rave them a lot (the Twin also needs to be put at a decent volume to show his sounds, its not a bedroom amp)
I dont think the Twin stock is a good jazz amp, although I am not sure what exact sound you want to achieve. If I had that setup I would for sure modify the Twin (speakers and adjusting the treble brightness) to get my idea of a jazz tone. They are clean, loud, reliable and you can find one anywhere in the world, thats why they are so used.
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Just a matter of fine tuning I guess. Originally Posted by aza
You can roll off a bit the tone and volume controls for the neck pickup on your guitar.
Tweak the mid from noon to the max on the amp to see if it helps.
Select the right pick etc...
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On my twin I usually cut bass and treble and leave mid at noon or maybe a bit higher. I've never had the bright switch on.
I also think it sounds better to put the master volume high and the volume (or gain) low. I am not sure if your black face has a master vol though..
I keep the tone pot on the guitar set quite low too.
It is by far the best sounding amp I know and have ever owned, but it weighs a ton..
Jens
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There's a bridge pickup? Originally Posted by aza
Seriously, try the neck pickup and roll back the tone on the guitar.
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Something more about my gear and set up:
Strings; d'dario flats 012
Pick up select for jazz: neck PU. Volume 8-9 Tone 3
Amp: twin reverb BF with 5751 preamp tubes, with jensen speakers. Controls: vol 3,Treble 3,bass 8.middle 5-6,reverb 3. No master volu control.
A sounding likes me is similar like this:
Any help and opinions are welcome!
thank you
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I would use neck pickup instead of bridge, less volume and more tone on the guitar, and definitely less bass on the amp (i always put treble on zero on fender amps but thats me). I am also not a fan of flats anymore but thats not your problem for sure.
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Ha ha, I wrong ..Bridge PU not for jazz, of course. Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
There's a bridge pickup?
Seriously, try the neck pickup and roll back the tone on the guitar.
I edit my post
Sorry
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On most every amp I have ever played, I get "my" (ideal) tone with something along these lines: Bass 3-4; Mid 7-8; Treble 2-3.5, and turn the tone down to between 2 and 4.5 on my guitar. I also get better tone--if need be--by backing the volume knob on the guitar down to somewhere between 8 and 9.5. I also play around with turning the amp volume up a bit more, and bring the guitar's volume down a bit more, if necessary. Personally, an amp with 5751 tubes at all positions is a bit clear and clinical for me; I like to have at least one or two 12AX7 tubes in there somewhere to bring a little smokiness to the tone. I also get a much better tone in a rehearsal or live situation where I can crank it up a bit and have some natural compression set in (my current amp is a 50 watt Ampeg).
Have fun.
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As for hifi loudspeaker, room acoustics really matter; For the TWin I notice far better sound in a big hall on stage than in my living room; the amp "breathes" far more and it can be played louder which is good.
Beside that, I'm not quite sure, but the Jensen speakers sound signature seems to be more on the brighter side than, say a rola or an eminence.Last edited by mambosun; 07-06-2011 at 07:48 PM.
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Use input 2 on your Twin
Lower gain, more mellow & airy.
Better for jazz.
Back guitar volume down to 8 ( or to taste )
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More mids, less bass.
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