View Poll Results: What FLATWOUND strings do you use/prefer?

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  • D'Addario

    169 37.47%
  • D'Angelico

    1 0.22%
  • DR Strings

    7 1.55%
  • Galli

    3 0.67%
  • GHS

    14 3.10%
  • Pyramid

    17 3.77%
  • Rotosound

    5 1.11%
  • Thomastic

    235 52.11%
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  1. #101

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    I use Thomastic Jazz Flat 12s on my 6 and 7 string archtops as well as my Tele. On the 7 strings, I have to add a D'Addario flat .065 for the low A. I'd prefer an .070 but they go from .065 to .075. I may try the .075 next string change and see how it sounds, but the .065 makes a pretty balanced set for a 7 string.

    @Eddie Charles - I use a very light-weight collapsible luggage dolly with bungees for my SS amp and I put my guitar into a gig bag on my shoulder to keep the weight down. Toughest part is lifting the amp (35 pounds) into the back of the SUV. Just a suggestion.

    Oh, and Happy Birthday!
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  3. #102

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    Forgot to mention that I use the Nylon coated flat wounds...I originally got into these when I played an Acoustic/Electric bass guitar (Martin). After picking up two solid body basses I decided the Nylon coated flat wounds sounded preffarable on these as well. I prefer a sound that mimics an upright as much as possible...I may end up with an upright some day.

    Nice tip regarding the portable luggage dolly. I will look into this!

  4. #103

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    find it odd that folks are more caught up in string gauges than string material.. pure nickel wrap of thomastik and pyramid is in no way similar (in feel or magnetic output) to stainless steel wrap of usa made strings..ie chromes, labella's et al

    cheers

  5. #104

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    I play ProSteel wound rounds and love the tone. The string is only as good as the finger than plays the string (that sounds dirty, but it's true).

    Also, picks. You guys love talking about strings, but your choice of pick may have an even more profound effect on your tone.


    What flatwound string do you use/prefer?-daddario-prosteels-jpg

  6. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    find it odd that folks are more caught up in string gauges than string material.. pure nickel wrap of thomastik and pyramid is in no way similar (in feel or magnetic output) to stainless steel wrap of usa made strings..ie chromes, labella's et al

    cheers
    I think people get caught up in gauges because gauge has a big influence on tone and playability. But I agree with you that gauge and materials are different issues, and I also agree with you about the differences you cite in feel and magnetic output.

  7. #106
    I've tried Labella, GHS, D'Addario, and Thomastik Infeld, just about every possible set of each (with the exception of "light" gauge sets). The D'Addario chromes, to my ears, sound "generic", bright, and without question the worst. I tried to like the Labella flats several times but (regardless of what the folks at Labella claim) they don't look or sound like the old Labellas. Rather dull sounding bass strings, lacking in character. Likewise, the GHS set lacked the "fullness" I expect in flatwound strings, just too bright for my needs.

    The Thomastik Infeld flats, on the other hand, sound amazing. Darker than the other three brands mentioned above, full yet lively, and the tone is much more balanced across the strings. Playing a Gibson scale semi-hollow, I find that the George Benson 14 gauge set is 100% perfect. They feel smooth and virtually no noise when playing Wes-style octaves, the tension is even across the strings and, most importantly, offer the nicest tone out of any flatwound string set I've used. They cost over twice as much as the others but sound ten times better. When I buy the GB14 set, I only cry once.

  8. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighSpeedSpoon
    I think people get caught up in gauges because gauge has a big influence on tone and playability. But I agree with you that gauge and materials are different issues, and I also agree with you about the differences you cite in feel and magnetic output.


    I can see your point about strings and gauges. I would offer if I were the only one wondering about this, other people wouldn't be talking about swapping out strings etc etc.

    I wonder how TI arrived at their gauges ? ( hint - -if they made a 12/52's in flats I'd have tried them long ago. )

    But I pay a luthier every year to set up each of my guitars, change strings etc etc.....If TI flats are 12/50 w/ thin 3rd and fourth strings, I'm looking at bridge and maybe truss rod adjustments I'd rather not have to make.


    String gauge offerings at the manufacturing level just seem sort of arbitrary, and 'that's how we do it '........

    .......just MHO.......

  9. #108

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    The T-I GB112 are 12-53 flats, specifically, 12p, 16p, 20w, 28w, 39w, 53w.

  10. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    The T-I GB112 are 12-53 flats, specifically, 12p, 16p, 20w, 28w, 39w, 53w.
    Ok, so ten bucks a set more than Swings which are already ten bucks a set more than Chromes ?

    I know nickel vs stainless.....

  11. #110

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    This poll have been around for years! Can I switch my vote from D'A to T-I? I've drunk the Kool-Aid and it's tast-ee!

  12. #111

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    This poll have been around for years! Can I switch my vote from D'A to T-I? I've drunk the Kool-Aid and it's tast-ee!

    haha..crossed over to pure nickel double wrap nirvana have you?? leave your stainless steel ego behind..haha


    cheers
    Last edited by neatomic; 07-04-2016 at 07:47 PM. Reason: sp-

  13. #112

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    I use DAddario strings for the archtops. But only the wounded D,A and E strings. For the G,B and E strings I use plain coated Elixer strings. I happen to dislike a wound G string on a guitar.
    The Elixers are available as single strings, which makes them easy to change with no need to buy a complete set. They are very smooth playing. The lower strings have a very long lifespan so most of the times I change the high strings as per demand and the low strings just once a year or so.

  14. #113

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotpepper01
    For the G,B and E strings I use plain coated Elixer strings. I happen to dislike a wound G string on a guitar.
    Elixir plain strings aren't coated; only the wound ones are. The plain ones have anti-rust chemistry, if that's what you mean, but they don't have Goretex nano or poly coating, which is what sets apart Elixir wound strings from all other wound strings on the market, and is the reason they last so much longer.
    Last edited by Danielle Muscato; 09-27-2016 at 02:26 PM.

  15. #114

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Charles
    Forgot to mention that I use the Nylon coated flat wounds...I originally got into these when I played an Acoustic/Electric bass guitar (Martin). After picking up two solid body basses I decided the Nylon coated flat wounds sounded preffarable on these as well. I prefer a sound that mimics an upright as much as possible...I may end up with an upright some day.

    Nice tip regarding the portable luggage dolly. I will look into this!
    Who makes nylon coated flat wound guitar strings? I've never heard of such a thing.

  16. #115

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    OK, so this is an old thread that floated up, and I just now voted (TI) but wanted to share a pic of a brand, and a usage not previously covered.

    Before TI, the usual flat strings for my archtops were the D'Addario, mostly because of availabilty in the days before online shopping made everything so accessible.

    BUT, before the D'Addario, another brand of flats, and instrument, pre-dated my jazz box use, and I still have a box (empty) to share a pic of !

    My old Ric 360-12 stereo would get strung with the Ric "Electro" FLAT wound 12 string set (#433 ??) and as you can see the box gave the stern warning "DO NOT USE OTHER STRINGS ON RICKENBACKER INSTRUMENTS"

    So the TI's are my preferred brand today, but it took many decades to get there. And while it's been many years since I've been near a Ric 12 string, I can't forget that oddness of the Ric flatwound strings that were favored by many players on that instrument. They maintained the "jangle" of the 12 string but tamed it well for recording.

    What flatwound string do you use/prefer?-ric_433-jpg

    and if you think that box looks old, check out my Ric amp. Who needs a power switch or volume control ?
    What flatwound string do you use/prefer?-ricken_back-jpg

  17. #116

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    I like D'Addario Chromes. They last a long time and sound great.


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  18. #117

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    Thomastik Infeld all the way...

  19. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblues
    Thomastik Infeld all the way...
    +1

    Love the timbre, the remarkable 'low-tension' feel (given the gauge/mass) and how long they last.

  20. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-ster
    I answered D'Addarios, 'cause that's what I'm currently using; but I want to try some of the TI's, since y'all rave about them so much!
    Interesting to run into one's own posts, a few years down the road (6 yrs, 8 mos, at this point!).

    Once I tried the TIs, I stuck with them. 13s for a while and more recently moved to the 14s. Very happy with them.

  21. #120

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    Having used D'Addario Chromes & Thomastic Ti 13 gauge, both good, D'Addario Chromes far too much tension, Hexcore. approx 14-17 years ago they were Roundcore.

    Ti are good but imo not a true 13 gauge set they are APPROX a 12 & 11 gauge set dont let the 13 & 17 fool you
    even the 13& 17 of Thomastic is thinner than most other brands . it is imperial i can feel the difference between a Ti 13 & regular
    13 gauge.

    I have been using Pyramid Gold Flatwound Heavey 13-52, for the last 8 months, and they have the best harmonic content of anything i have used, the Timbre is also superior, (If you cant hear it it does not apply to you) they have a aThomastic feel, i do prefer Chromes finnish/feel slightly smoother to the touch. Intonation on all is good. Tension wise Pyramid is the lowest just like Ti also Roundcore, and are a True 13 set.

    Ihave just purchased 5 sets. in case they stop making them, Da and the rest do this because it is cheaper to manumacture,

    Pyramid & Thomastic were around a long time before DA, they are all good. Pyramid is just better, imo.

    My little rant but give Pyramid a whirl they are seriously good.

    PS all flatwounds in 50s 60 maybe 70s were Roundcore this is what Wes Tal Barney all played on, they all played heavy strings with, read correctly, super lo action

  22. #121

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    I love the mellow thunk of LaBella Flats. 12-52s are my current faves, although I wonder about 13-52s or 13-56s sometimes...

  23. #122

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    D'Addario went to hex core strings for good reasons, not because it's cheaper to manufacture. The hex core produces a more consistent tone, and a longer-lasting string. It's popular to bash it, but IMO it's a better string. Being traditional does not equal better. But string choice is a very subjective thing, and that's why there are so many choices.

  24. #123

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    Quote Originally Posted by guido5
    I love the mellow thunk of LaBella Flats. 12-52s are my current faves, although I wonder about 13-52s or 13-56s sometimes...
    I have been using the 11 50 sets for most of the year. At one time I thought of them as sounding rather dead sounding especially on the low E. However, I seem to have come around to liking they way they sound especially when amplifying. It almost seems to me the response is a little more lively as you move up from the low to hi strings. Amplified, I think this can be an advantage as it stops the low strings from overwhelming the high strings.

    On the other hand I might still be using these because I think I may have just become very tired of experimenting with and changing string sets.

  25. #124

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielleOM
    >>SNIP<<On the other hand I might still be using these because I think I may have just become very tired of experimenting with and changing string sets.
    When this poll first came out I only used "Half rounds" but I was convinced that trying flats would solve some issues I had with a new guitar. Of the two major brands reported in this poll only Chromes were available locally, bought them, liked them, and I too do not like experimenting anymore so now I use .012" chromes.

  26. #125

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    I have been using TI 13 to 52 flat for about 5 years but will be trying the Ti 14-56 for my next set. The TI’s seem to last longer than any of the other strings.

    wiz (Howie????????

  27. #126

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    Kind of an update:

    For the last year or so I had TI Benson flats 14-55 on my Painter but the time came to replace them. So now there's once more LaBella 15-56 flat's on that axe. They can last a very long time. I had LaBella send me a replacement box of them instead of the ones I had from the problematic batch, so I will likely have strings for the rest of my life (yes I'm that old).

    Funny like I seem to run out of GAS these days. I have the guitars I want. I have the cameras and lenses I want. I have the fountain pens (yes I'm that old) I want. Heck, I even have ink for the pens for the rest if my life. I fear it may get boring at some point. What flatwound string do you use/prefer?

  28. #127

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    I was using D'Addario Chromes when I had my Godin 5th Ave. and eventually was using D'Addario chromes on my flat top acoustics too.
    I now have two carbon fiber flat top acoustics and presently using Galli Bronze 80/20 flat wounds.
    AJF1047 Extra Lights and AJF1150 Lights.

  29. #128

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    D'Addario 11’s ‘cause Gibson stopped making flatwounds. Or I just don’t know where to find them anymore.

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  31. #130

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    Recently started using Dogal Nightclub Flatwounds V25 on my Emerald X20.

    They are bronze flatwound on round core.

    .011 - .014 - .016w - .022 - .030 - .042

    These are super easy to play and bend.

    I like them a little better than the Galli flatwound 80/20 bronze flatwound I'd been using.

    The Dogal are pricey, so I only indulge when they're on sale.


    What flatwound string do you use/prefer?-dogal-v25-strings-jpg

  32. #131

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    Hello my jazz pals.

    Wow! This poll has been going for some time. Hopefully made some people try something else.

    Just like to say my La Bella 13 flats on the Epi Emp Reg are over 3 years old and the Squier jazz Tele has Chromes 12's that are just under 3 years old. They're just breaking in and rarely go out of tune. Ha.

    La Bella's are still feeling pliable but the Chromes have always been as stiff as rail track! You would think the chromes were 13's and the La Bella's were 12's. But thereyou go.

    It's strange but only the Chromes work on the Tele, the picato and Thomastics I had on there the G string would sound dead.

    Also for consideration would be D'Addario round wound Pure nickels in 12 and above with a wound G. A little fiddle with an amp tone stack and guitar tone control can sweep from plunk to twanng, or if you're playing loudly then PLUNK and TWANNGH. .....

    Ha ha ha.

    Ha.

  33. #132

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    My two favorites are Thomastiks and GHS. GHS aren't as flexible as Thomastiks but they have a really nice tone, especially once broken in.

  34. #133

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    I was using Chromes for a long time, but finally got some TI Swings (11-47) and they're perfect on my Strats. On the PE-175 I use the TI Bensons (12-53). For me personally, the TIs are miles ahead of the Chromes. Of course, that's just my opinion. But I'm just in love with the TI flats.

  35. #134

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    Used TI swing 13-57, sounded great but I felt their tension too low, may be I pick too hard ?
    I now use Addario and I'm happy with them

  36. #135

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    Surprising poll for me. I spent a long time going through flatwounds and ultimately it wasn't even close. I prefer Pyramid 12s, sometimes 11s.

  37. #136

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    Thomastik-Infeld, all the way. I feel they're too bright when I first string up my guitar but after a day or two, the strings lose that brightness and they start to have a great sound. They last a long time. I leave them on longer than I should between changes...but that's just a preference.

  38. #137

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    For a long time I just though TI’s were ridiculously gauged and stupidly expensive. A friend gifted me with a set of Benson .12s and I can admit that I was a fool for many years. Absolutely love the sound and feel of these strings. When I replace them I may step down to a lighter low E string but they’re not what you could honestly call unbalanced. They are in the usa very expensive but given the time they last and the hours I’ll get out of them I can justify the expense.

  39. #138

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    D'Addario ECG25, but they became outrageously expensive in Europe
    So I switched to TI JS112 instead and don't regret

  40. #139

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    All strings for archtops are now just so expensive. There must be a limit soon with the Brit pound being so low against Euro/Dollar

  41. #140

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    I have TI's flatwound swing .011 on the Humbuckers and TI's roundwound bebop .011 on the singlecoils. Soft feeling, great longlasting tone, little fret load.

  42. #141

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    I have been using TI112s for a long time. I have been half thinking of trying to move up to 13s, and I discovered a few days ago that I have three packets of Chrome 12s in a drawer. They have heavier basses than the TI strings, so next time I do a string change I might go back to them, if only to see how I go with the thicker basses. I suspect they will not stay on that long though - once I make a decision on the feel I think I will be getting some more TI strings of the appropriate gauge. I find they feel much nicer under my fingers regardless of thickness.

  43. #142

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    LaBella

  44. #143

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    I've tried the Dogal Nightclub V25 80/20 Bronze Flat wounds and
    they are really great strings, the best so far for me.
    I've not tried the V24 with the flatwound B string, or the V77, but I'm very curious.

    Does the bridge have to be compensated going from a plain B to a wound B as with
    going from a plain G to a wound G ?

    On most string sets with a .012 first string, the wound strings are
    normally a larger diameter than what is found in the V24.
    The Dogal Nightclub V77 have a .014 first string and also very small diameter wound strings
    to most sting sets with a .014 first string.

    Is there an advantage or disadvantage to the smaller diameter wound strings ?

    Here are a few strings sets of bronze flat wound string which shows the size difference
    of the wound strings compared to the Dogal Nightclub.

    p= plain, fw= flat wound. rw = round wound

    Dogal Nightclub
    V25 80/20 Bronze Flat wound.............................011p - .014p - .016fw - .022fw - .030fw - .042fw
    V24 80/20 Bronze Flat wound.............................012p - .016fw - .020fw - .028fw - .034fw - .046fw
    V77 80/20 Bronze Flat wound.............................014p - .017p - .023fw - .030fw - .038fw - .048fw
    Galli
    AJF1047 Extra Light 80/20 Bronze Flat wound.....010p - .014p - .023fw - .030fw - .039fw - .047fw
    AJF1150 Light 80/20 Bronze Flat wound..............011p - .014p - .024fw - .032fw - .040fw - .050fw
    AJF1252 Medium 80/20 Bronze Flat wound.........012p - .016p - .024fw - .032fw - .042fw - .052fw
    Thomastik-Infeld Plectrum
    Extra Light AC110 Bronze Hybrid Arrangement....010p - .013p - .016fw - .022fw - .030fw - .041rw
    Light AC111 Bronze Hybrid Arrangement.............011p - .014p - .019fw - .027fw - .036fw - .050rw
    Med Light AC112 Bronze Hybrid Arrangement.....012p - .015p - .024fw - .033rw - .044rw - .059rw
    Medium AC113 Bronze Hybrid Arrangement........013p - .016p - .025rw - .034rw - .047rw - .061rw

  45. #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhd
    Is there an advantage or disadvantage to the smaller diameter wound strings ?
    if the sound suits you, the question concerns the left and right hands, for the pick, and fingers

    right hand, smaller diameter, it's more room for the passage of fingers, advantage, and probably for the attack to the pick if you use a flexible and small

    left hand, this can make some fingerings easier, make others more difficult

    in short, these are common sense answers, when you look closely at what's going on

    personally, I played only flatwound, sometimes with a B flatwound, 18, if I remember correctly. With a diameter of 16, the risk is that wound string will deteriorate very quickly

  46. #145

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    Smaller diameter means less tension. That can be good or bad depending on the guitar and your preferences. A set of strings is not a major investment for most people, so try them and see if you like them.

  47. #146

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    yes the bridge will need some adjusting..like with g...as well might the pickup/polepieces

    a wound b string must have an extremely thin inner core...that changes tension and feel, and intonation...despite the final gauge being similar/identical to a plain b string

    cheers

  48. #147

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    I just strung my Washburn J-6 with DR Legend 13 flats. Pretty darn good. I've used the 11s on several semis before as well. They're more comfortable, loose, and mellow compared to chrome's (pretty much the only other flatwounds available locally); the DR 13s are less stiff and easier to play than chrome 12s jeez.

  49. #148

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    I’ve gotta say, I think I’ve settled on TI gb12 flats. I’ve kept them on my main L5 for over 6mos. They sound and feel great. Also have them on another L5 and a 335, as well as an ibanez fg100. They feel really balanced, there’s enough tension, but not too much, and with the right technique they sound and play great acoustically and electrically. I’m lucky in that I don’t really kill strings. I have pretty dry hands


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