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There is a guitar player here that uses one in a small bar. If my memory does not fail me, he also used a RAT overdrive pedal in front and a PRS solidbody. He had a Santana-type sound, and was playing more of a fusion-type Jazz (think "Return to Forever").
If that is the tone you are after, then this set up did a great job.
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09-04-2014 08:08 AM
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Check out Quilter Aviator 1 x 10. 100/200amp, clean, driven and everything inbetween sound able. Low cost, light weight and excellent quality. Yes it's solid state but you'd never know it from the sound.
I have the Aviator series 2x10 and it covers everything from Blues to Jazz. I've had a lot of amps over the years and was sworn to Tube style untill I heard this one.
Go to the Quilter website and you can hear video/sound clips of all the amps played over a variety of styles.
Well worth the time and beats having to travel all over the place to listen to various amps.
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I have one and a nice little amp after a few mods but little jay is on the money...
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I have had too many amps. There...I said it. I probably own 12 now. I used to build them for sale, too. Among the amps I have owned were two Blues Jrs. I liked their size. They ended up being my least favorite amps ever. The Pro Jr is nice. Instead, I would recommend a Princeton Reverb. ..great amp.
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I found my original Blues Jr. (the new one is the third version) very dark. I much prefer the reissue Princeton reverb.
Rick
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I love my HRD - but do not love the weight.
Originally Posted by Chazmo
Maybe I am missing sth but for clean playing why bother with tubes at all?
I have 110 Evans RE150 (150W with external speaker output) and I MUCH rather use it for clean playing than my Blues Jr. Plus I think that for ensemble playing 10" is just fine and you avoid feedback issues.
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Definitely not what I'm looking for maybe 20 years ago (minus the pedal, never liked distortion pedals). Originally Posted by AlsoRan
Looking for small clean tube and Keira and Little Jay are on to what I was first thinking, but was hoping to maybe save a few dollars with the Blues Jr. The Blues Jr and Blues Deluxe interested me because they have Middle controls the Princeton doesn't. Little Jay mentioning the brightness I was wondering that too with the EL84's.
Thanks all that's the input I was hoping for.
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I sold my BJr for all of these reasons. That is why I have been looking at the Fender Rumble 100 bass amp. With the few pedals I actually use...reverb, delay, chorus, dirt, and volume pedal...I have more headroom than I need, but really good clean sound. I am taking my pedals with me later today to decide if it is coming home with me. Plus they are really light!
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I have a Sub Zero R20 clone of a blues Jr. I use it with a Jazz orchestra as well as playing with a function band. It's plenty loud enough even on open air gigs. Not bad for a 20watt amp easy to cary and it looks good too, very retro.
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A BJR clone by SubZero? That's new to me! Never heard of that brand.
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Sub-zero = In-house brand of UK retailer Gear4music.
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My impression is that the '68 line (gorgeous looks and all) IS designed for the rock market. (aren't all amps, these days? No harm there--you have to show a profit.
Our quest is to coax a jazz tone from a rock amp. This was more easily done in an era when jazz and jazz/country players were openly acknowledged as being at the pinnacle of the guitar-playing pyramid (the case in the 50s/60s, when Leo was designing amps with his crew).
These days, we must be more cagey.
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EVERYBODY is drawn to the Blues Jr. It's not hard to see why. If you listen, though, you may come to the conclusion I did--I owned two Blues Jr amps and one Pro Jr. Side by side, I'm afraid that the Pro Jr just kicked the Blues Jrs all around the room--in terms of overall tone. In that price range, I would pick the PJ every time out. (Oh, yeah, I own a couple of outboard reverbs.)
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I had a blues Jr. They're not bad. But once I found a SF non-reverb princeton for not much more than a new Jr, my Jr collected dust quickly. I just ain't into EL84's I guess.
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Don't mind rock amps at all if I could get just a bit of hair on the notes. Can't abide rock amps that go into ultra high-gain super overdrive distortion as soon as you touch the strings.
If the 68 Custom Vibrolux Reverb does that "hair on note" thing, I have a new amp on its way. Yeah, I like tremolo and spring reverb
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Here's what Gear4music say about the amp.
Full Description
Retro Looks and Sound
The SubZero Tube-20R offers great retro looks with a sound to match. The two Electro Harmonix 6BQ5 tubes give this amp a classic distinctive chiming, articulate treble sound. These are matched perfectly with the three 12AX7 valves, which break up quickly and clearly, giving a great vintage crunch. The Spring Reverb adds an additional shimmer to the amp's classic jangle, valve crunch and warmth.
Celestion Speaker for a Wide Range of Sounds and Styles
The SubZero Tube-20R comes loaded with a Celestion Seventy 80 speaker, which offers a punchy, aggressive upper mid range, tightly controlled low end, and a subtly increased top end. In combination with the three band EQ, you'll be able to find the right sound for your guitar and musical style.
Features/Specifications:
Power Output: RMS 20W minimum into 8 Ω @5 THD, 1KHz
Input Impedance: 1M Ω
Speaker: 12" Celestion Seventy 80 Speaker
Controls: Gain, Boost S/W, Treble, Middle, Bass, Volume (Master), Reverb
Dimensions: W 460MM x H 420mm x D 270mm (18" x 16.5" x 10.6")
Tubes: 2 x 6BQ5(EL84) Electro Harmonix, 3 x 12AX7 Electro Harmonix
The Latest in Electric Guitar Amplifier Technology and Tone
SubZero's wide range of boutique, premium-grade electric guitar amplifiers offer high-grade components, quality craftsmanship and the latest in guitar amp technology to players demanding superb quality amplification at a reasonable price.
Ranging from DSP modelling combo amps to all-tube stacks, every SubZero amplifier features the same attention-to-detail that one would expect from a high quality electric guitar amplifier. SubZero delivers the ultimate in value, power, looks and sound.
SubZero is an exclusive premium brand of Gear4music.com
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I'm with you on that I like a little bite to the notes on single line and some crunch when playing Funk rhythm. I figure with the power of the Vibrolux I can run at a good level fpr Jazz without pushing into too much into over drive. Worse case swap the pre-amp tubes. Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
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FWIW, i had to borrow a stock Blues Jr once on a jazz trio gig and I couldn't keep it from breaking up. I don't recommend it for cleans if you need any volume at all.
I did gig with a Blues Deluxe (USA tweed model) for about a decade and recall that it was not acceptable off the shelf. I put in cleaner tubes and a better speaker and it worked quite well, however, for a clean jazz tone.
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A trick with the Blues/Pro Jr amps is to replace the preamp tubes with lower values. I have a 5751 in v1 and a 12au7 in v2 in my Pro Jr and it works really well. A higher sensitivity (efficient) speaker can also squeak out more volume. Of course, it also depends on how much clean volume you need, there's only so so much you can get out of a 15watt amp... Originally Posted by mikeSF
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That's kind of what I did to my Blues Deluxe: it has a Jensen C12K speaker, 12AY7 in V1 and a 12AT7 in V3. Completely different amp now, like a civilized tweed or a spiced up BF. Like it a lot! Originally Posted by Greentone
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I got a NOS Blues Jr and I couldn't believe how warm and nice this thing sounds. On the other hand the regular Blues Jrs sound so ice picky and harsh.
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After testing one and thinking it had a great sound and was definitely loud enough for a small gig, unmiked, I emailed Gilad Hekselman and asked him what he thought of the Blues Junior and he liked it , especially the Tweed one with the Jensen, which was good enough for me! He did say if you have the cash get a 65 Reverb, though! (i don't, sadly)
As someone once said, don't take opinions or reviews as read on these things: trust your own ears; If it works for you and it gets the sound you like go for it.
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I had the smaller model, not the Junior, 2 knobs that I used with an 18 piece band. Worked fine.
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Pro Junior? badass little amps. Originally Posted by A. Kingstone
Surprised you could stay clean. Was it more of a rhythm guitar environment and you were meant to be heard more by the band and less by the audience?
I had a Blues Junior, but sold it when I got my Princeton and figured I really didn't need two tube amps about the same size/output... Should have kept it, it was it's own thing, and a cool amp.
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I own two Blues Jr amps. I never use them. They are the last amps in my inventory that I would pull out and use, quite honestly. I have used them to experiment with--mods and all that.
Back in the day, Fender sold two inexpensive tube amps--the Blues Jr and the Pro Jr. Far and away, the Pro Jr was the better amp of the two. I owned them both and used the Pro Jr routinely. I ultimately sold it to a pro rock guy who begged me for it. He used it to record several albums.
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