how old are we

[mr. beaumont]

Hehe that All the Things jam clip certainly made the rounds.

That bad? I've never seen it.

Which probably shows that I'm old.

[joe2758]

Hehe that All the Things jam clip certainly made the rounds.

What is it a video making fun of Berklee?

[Bach5G]

I’ll be 70 in 2025.

59 years playing the guitar. My teacher says I’m making good progress.

[bediles]

What is it a video making fun of Berklee?

http://https://www.reddit.com/r/jazz...shit_ive_ever/

[joe2758]

I see.

[Stringswinger]

I’ll be 70 in 2025.

59 years playing the guitar. My teacher says I’m making good progress.

I will be 68 in 2025 with 58 years of playing the guitar. As Larry Coryell once told me in the green room, before we went out to do a concert together, we are all climbing the same hill. Some of us are higher up on that hill than others are, but nobody ever gets to the top, so the goal is to get as high up that hill as you can.

I expect to be climbing that hill until the reaper comes along.....

[omphalopsychos]

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i laughed my ass off at those attya memes.

[AllanAllen]

http://https://www.reddit.com/r/jazz...shit_ive_ever/

That cannot be real.

[AllanAllen]

[AllanAllen]

Just thought I’d save other people the trouble of finding it.


I feel like this is what people expect when I tell them I play jazz guitar.

[mr. beaumont]

All the Things That Ain't.

[Christian Miller]

It somehow manages to be very very much less than the sum of its parts.

Fuze posted a sort of analytical explanation of why it was good, actually, on Twitter. This may not have, in fact, been the most helpful response.

Eventually, the schadenfreude got so bad, Berklee took down the original video.

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[AllanAllen]

They went for something, and that's cool, it's just that at least 2 of them don't appear to be jazz guitarists. They seem like metal heads that got into fusion.

I'm not trying to judge them, I'm sure they'd find my music incredibly dull, amateur and derivative.

[Christian Miller]

Well Sheryl Bailey is a fantastic bop player, and Dave ‘Fuze’ fiuczynski (double neck guy) and Tim Miller are both highly regarded fusion players and while I doubt they play a huge ton of standards gigs, I’m sure they’d have no trouble playing the crap out of ATTYA. Fuzes stuff is pretty eclectic actually, he’s really into his non-western temperaments, hence the fretless neck on his guitar.

I don’t know the other player(s).

We all have bad moments…. It’s hard to know how to play with a bunch of other guitarists.

But the internet is horrible.

[joe2758]

it reminds me of those "shreds" videos; anyone know what I'm talking about?

[AllanAllen]

Well Sheryl Bailey is a fantastic bop player, and Dave ‘Fuze’ fiuczynski (double neck guy) and Tim Miller are both highly regarded fusion players and while I doubt they play a huge ton of standards gigs, I’m sure they’d have no trouble playing the crap out of ATTYA. Fuzes stuff is pretty eclectic actually, he’s really into his non-western temperaments, hence the fretless neck on his guitar.

I don’t know the other player(s).

We all have bad moments…. It’s hard to know how to play with a bunch of other guitarists.

But the internet is horrible.

Yeah exactly, they aren't Frank Vignola, Jimmy Bruno straight ahead types. Not that they are bad musicians, I just like what I like and I like vanilla.

For what it's worth, I've found the best thing to do with a bunch of guitarists on stage is play as little as possible.

[PMB]

Rick Peckham is the other guitarist. One of the perils of being on the staff at Berklee would be managing to keep your chops up and maintain a reasonable live gig calendar. There would be so much administration to deal with apart from the teaching. I remember a similar video where Charles Chapman, head of the guitar department at the time falls apart when it comes time for him to solo. He later admitted to great anxiety in these situations as he got older. Legendary teachers such as Charlie Banacos and Dennis Sandole basically ceased to play live in later years.

I thought Sheryl Bailey acquitted herself quite well here. She's assistant chair and mentioned in a recent interview that she has to arise around 4:30am each morning to get a decent amount practise in before arriving at Berklee. I'm not sure if she does many standard gigs these days but I saw her on a few occasions over ten years ago with Vic Juris at 55Bar jamming on GAS tunes and they both sounded great.

[pamosmusic]

I saw Sheryl and Vic doing “Electric Ladyland” the first weekend after I moved to New York.

(that’s their instrumental fusion covers of Hendrix tunes and it ruled)

[Stringswinger]

I thought that was pretty cool actually.

[Christian Miller]

Oh I see the link is the full performance, I’ve actually been trying to track that down.

The bits when it’s say Tim and Sheryl playing at the same time sound unsurprisingly really good.

It’s actually the last minute and a half it turns out that the internet dirt bags have been clipping.


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[omphalopsychos]

It isn't that people clipped it. Berklee actually posted that "nightmare blunt rotation" intro as their instagram story and that's when it took off. Everyone has their bad day, but Berklee's social media manager initially committed the foul that IMO caused the school some legitimate reputational damage.

[DawgBone]

While that wasn't straight ahead jazz it definitely qualified as straight ahead garbage. I guess it's not Free Jazz since people pay a premium to come out the other side sounding like that.

[pamosmusic]

The bits when it’s say Tim and Sheryl playing at the same time sound unsurprisingly really good.

Agreed. Honestly I’m a Sheryl Bailey partisan. I love her playing. This isn’t really a great specimen, but she sounds good enough.

[rpjazzguitar]

Old.

The way that older people have squelched interest in jazz is by defining it too narrowly IMO.

For example, I think that Steely Dan and the Grateful Dead both played jazz, at least, for a significant portion of their music. David Grisman. Gypsy Jazz (I understand why Gypsy Jazz is jazz, but then I don't get why Bluegrass is not).

Smooth jazz is not accepted as jazz, at least by some purists.

One argument is, for example, that rockers didn't emerge from the jazz tradition. But, in fact, a lot of rockers have reported that they were listening to Coltrane. Jerry Garcia copied some of his chord stab style from big band horn sections. There are more examples.

[Christian Miller]

It isn't that people clipped it. Berklee actually posted that "nightmare blunt rotation" intro as their instagram story and that's when it took off. Everyone has their bad day, but Berklee's social media manager initially committed the foul that IMO caused the school some legitimate reputational damage.

Haha OK that's way funnier, and I also feel sorry for those involved. Obviously the social media manager thinks that's how top level contemporary jazz is meant to sound lol.

Hopefully it reflects more on the school than the players, as the average Reddit dirtbag jazz ****poster appears not to know who e.g. Sheryl Bailey is.