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I'm already in learning of "intervals" . I'm understand thank you for all of your suggestions and advise
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09-20-2020 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pow
A few notes:
- For 7th chord arpeggios Dom7#4 and Dom7b5 are the same thing so you should scratch the Dom7#4 from your list
- You should learn some basic music theory, how to harmonize scales, and how to build chords from the root up while fully understanding the interval for each chord tone - and the resulting chord names.
- Armed with that knowledge you should be able to mark up some diagrams like these on your own. I just used MS Excel and a pencil.
Cheers.
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Dom7sus4
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Dom7#5
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Originally Posted by pow
When I was starting I would spend hours on long car journeys writing out positions for the modes and so on, when I couldn’t actually pick up a guitar. I think it was good for me.
You don’t learn by being a passive learner. Teachers aren’t there to spoonfeed you info. They should be there to teach you how to teach yourself. Which is great for the student, but a terrible business model.
Here’s a video I did a while back:
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But from the OP I’d say you are coming at it kind of backwards. I honestly find myself at a loss with this kind of question...
I remember playing my first Zeppelin riffs when I was starting and I didn’t know anything about arpeggios. Someone taught me riffs by showing me.... I was crap, but I was just playing music with a band. And I got better FAST.
Information just comes through garbled up and it has no context. Not your fault. I mean you don’t yet know what positions are yet and yet you are asking about altered dominants. It’s like trying to do calculus when you can’t count to ten. And even you get that stuff together quickly you are missing out on what’s important about being a musician - playing music.
i got around to all that stuff later, but for a beginner this stuff is just inappropriate. Focus on the basics first and play music.
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I play lot of music and now I want to really understand what i'm doing that's it.
I know triades, chords but not all of us, arpeggios I was confused by learn in box (in all 6 strings) or just root to root. I don't have to justificate myself.
I'm learning in same time since few days.
If I've posted question about Am7, only cause was mentionned in my book , We are all different, thank you for your point of vue.I'm not here to fight or criticate. God bless you.
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Thank you so much for your anser and advise, i understand sound and sure Dom7#5 AND Dom7b5 it's the same cause their is just position , i've a writting too fast I learn basic theory in same time. It's a good website i'll be back if i have other questions ! thank you for your help
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Thank you for you great job ! Thank you for your advise too. I'll watching your video tommorow .
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Thank you to bring me to ordre and remind me the most important thing, PLAY
Thank you so much Christianm77
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Originally Posted by pow
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@pow
I wish I was a player who could just play what I thought sounded right and actually have it sound right. I need to understand at an intellectual level for my fingers to relax and play. Sounds like you do too.
My theory Kung fu is way stronger than my ear and groove. But I can’t fight who I am.
That said, my thirty year theory quest has made me realize that theory is like the three blind men describing an elephant. Is it functional harmony, counterpoint, or relative movement? Scales or chords? -7b5 or -6? Is it a chord or a triad with a walking bass note?
For me, the only way to sort through the noise is to be inclusive. Each book is one blind man describing what he touched. Eventually you build up a picture from the points of overlap that starts to make sense to you. Few of them are “wrong” per se. Just seen from a perspective.
Hope your that helps.
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Thank you for share your experience. have a good day
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Originally Posted by GTRMan
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Originally Posted by rlrhett
practice simple stuff to perfection.
i have this pretty straightforward bluesprogression that i play along. It's in a minor. The longer i practice it. The better i get at improvising on it. I don't really need to think and can just play what i want to play. And the fun part is; it keeps getting better!
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Great video.
I already do this
so thanks for this confirmation of type of learning
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Originally Posted by christianm77
These are 4 note arpeggio fingerings
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--------------4------------------3--------------4--------------3------------------
-------2--5--------------2--5-----------2--6----------2--6----------------------
----3-----------------3---------------3-------------3------------------------------
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-----------4-------------3--------------4------------3--------------4------------3----
----2--4----------2--4-----------1--5--------1--5----------1--4---------1--4-------
-3--------------3--------------3------------3-------------3-------------3--------------
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----------2--------------4-------------3---------1--3-----------------------------------
----1--4----------3--5----------3--5---------1------------------------------------------
-3--------------3-------------3-------------3---------------------------------------------
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And
what the name of these G arpeggios you show ?
Thank you , to named it for more clarity
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Gma7 ..... 1 3 5 7
G7 ......... 1 3 5 b7
Gma7+ ... 1 3 #5 7
G7+ ....... 1 3 #5 b7
Gma7b5 ... 1 3 b5 7
G7b5 ........ 1 3 b5 b7
GmMa7 ..... 1 b3 5 7
Gm7 ......... 1 b3 5 b7
GoMa7 ...... 1 b3 b5 7
Gm7b5 ...... 1 b3 b5 b7
Go7 ........... 1 b3 b5 bb7
Gma7sus .... 1 4 5 7
G7sus ........ 1 4 5 b7
Gm7#5 ...... 1 b3 #5 b7
I presented it this way because it is easy to notice what stays the same and what changes.
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Thank you, one precision the "+" it's for "dominante" or no ?
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and the "O" ? (i'm novice)
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thank you it's the "trick" i search for my learning
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Originally Posted by pow
Last edited by GTRMan; 09-21-2020 at 07:32 PM.
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+ is a symbol for augmented
o is a symbol for diminished.
The typewriter "o" should be smaller and higher up.
Vintage fuzz on "space" transistors
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