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Pumped, eh? Good lord
What do you make of G+7(#9) ?
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10-31-2019 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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It's on the last Autumn Leaves sheet. What do you think that notation means? What notes? How would you play the chord?
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Originally Posted by christianm77
I have seen, iirc, either +7 or 7+ to mean major seventh, not augmented fifth.
And, then there's M for minor with Ma for major, which can be confusing. CM7(MA7) for min/maj.
Additional chord symbols that I'm seeing more are things like C lyd, C phryg.
How would you interpret D7M/F#? That comes from one of the Chediak books.
What about F(#11)? Would you put in a seventh? A natural 5th?
A74(9), where the 7 is directly above the 4.
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A74(9)
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Originally Posted by ragman1
G#, C, F#, B?????? Maybe (fingers crossed)????
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
D7M/F# is usually 2 x 0 2 2 x or some such... Dmaj7/F# anyway...
F(#11) ... I think this might be 1 x 3 2 0 x but I'm open to correction.
A74(9) OF COURSE, is an A9sus4, so the classic 5 x 5 4 3 x
How did I do?
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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I might be making a fuss but I can work it out really :-)
It's A9sus4. Naturally :-)
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Originally Posted by christianm77
I also seem to recall seeing A4/7(9), with the 4 directly above the 7. I interpret that as indicating that the 4 (more correctly, the 11) should be played above the 7.
Hermeto has his own way of writing chords. I heard that it was a series of numbers reflecting intervals (not sure if they were the related to the root, or to the prior note in the ascending sequence). That may be an efficient approach given his great ears and poor vision.
For Clyd, I usually think Cmaj7#11.
For Cphryg, I usually think Csusb9.
Are there better ways to think about the lyd and phryg symbols?
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Originally Posted by shrews824
Played xx3446 or x89811x. It's a nice chord, I use it quite a bit.
The bass doesn't need to be put in all the time on a chord. One could, I suppose, make a bar on the 3rd fret for the G bass with that first fingering but it's awkward and probably unnecessary. In a band, the bassist would play it anyway.
So, yes, Gm can be written G-. But G# wouldn't be written G+. I know, it's a nuisance :-)
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Originally Posted by shrews824
The thing to understand about jazz guitar learning/reference materials is that all sorts of folks unqualified to teach have no problem clogging the interenet with stuff laden with mistakes, because they believe they are correct. Beware.
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
But I agree, as a learner, how does one find the best places? Very difficult. Sometimes it's just trial and error. A teacher/teaching site may be good for one person but not another.
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Originally Posted by shrews824
'Jazz is a decorative art' Peter Bernstein
So, you have the plain basics and the ornamentation over the top. Look at the chart rag posted and it's there right in front of you. Plain chords above the stave are the basic chords. Chords in brackets are suggestions for decoration.
Also compare the standard 12 bar blues to the jazz version.
Being a jazz guitarists entails learning fancy stuff that you can put on everything. But the basics are simple, most of the time.
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
Originally Posted by ragman1
Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by shrews824
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Originally Posted by ragman1
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Thank you. Reciprocal!
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Originally Posted by shrews824
G7 #5 b9
It okay to keep it simple and just play the third and seventh: xx34xx
This is especially true if you are playing with a bassist -- leave the low notes to him. If you are comping on your own, you can add a bass note: 3x34xx
I have a diagram in my head that I've digested that shows options over that shell chord, for example, I start with the 3rd and 7th:
Code:||---|---|---|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|-3-|---|---| ||---|---|b7-|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|---|---|---|
Code:||---|---|---|---|---|---| ||---|b5-|-5-|#5-|-6-|---| ||---|---|---|-3-|---|---| ||---|---|b7-|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|---|---|---|
Choices on the E string:
Code:||---|---|-R-|b9-|-9-|#9-| ||---|---|---|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|-3-|---|---| ||---|---|b7-|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|---|---|---| ||---|---|---|---|---|---|
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
I agree about the charts too. I need to get it out of my head that I have to play it exactly note for note. Chances are very few people would even notice if I were to ever play a particular standard in front of people. As long as the chord or key is correct and doesn't clash I would hope that I would be forgiven.
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If you’re not familiar with jazz chords, check out the lessons on this forum, e.g.
Jazz Guitar Chords - Everything You Need To Master Jazz Chords
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Originally Posted by grahambop
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Originally Posted by shrews824
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