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Originally Posted by ragman1
Anyway sometimes it’s nice to be able to hear a new voicing that you do like.
What is interesting is when you hear a player like Peter Bernstein or Mike Moreno making completely bog standard voicings sound fresh. I don’t want to copy their style, but it does inspire.
Anyway, piano is were it’s at for me. A bit of creativity has to creep in because we are limited by the instrument. How do we get the sense of that Bill Evans voicing?
I find that stuff pretty fun and creative. Otherwise it’s me just playing the usual shit and I can do that already.Last edited by christianm77; 08-22-2018 at 09:08 AM.
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08-22-2018 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by timscarey
Full disclosure: the one time I gigged "I Thought About You" it was a kind of a trainwreck - or at least I think my solo was, so I am no by no means a master of that tune's harmony.
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Originally Posted by coolvinny
Bb-Bb7-Eb-Ebmin
becomes
Bb-Bb7-Em7b5-Ebmin
I use it so much I call it "the ballad turnaround"
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Originally Posted by joe2758
In your example, I can see the Em7b5 acting like A7 or some other sort of chromatic turnound-y thing. Also I think turnarounds offer more flexibility in general than say bar 5 of the form. The one that had me curious was the following example from timscarey's post:
"BbMaj7 - EbMaj7- Dmin - G7 "becomes
Emin7(b5)- EbMaj7- Dmin - G7
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Originally Posted by coolvinny
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1) Melody
2) Bassline
3) Middle voices if necessary
Guitarist get a bit hung up on 3) because it's what they do most of the time. But it's not really that big of a deal.
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Originally Posted by joe2758
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Originally Posted by coolvinny
It's a pretty common move. As a sub for a turnaround starting on I, it makes a good variation in the second A of a tune, or an ending. Also you can use an inverted triad instead: C/E instead of Em7b5 for Bb.
I see the Em7b5 also a C7 chord. But II7 is the same as VIm really, it's where it's from.
Stevie Wonder uses a variant with a m7 in Sir Duke.
It's all in the melody.
I6 - 1 3 5 6
#IVm7b5 - #4 6 1 3
So it's really handy, as if the melody is on 1 or 3 (or 6), it works great..
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